Constant Escapism: The Top Films of Stan

[Clinamenic]

the detachment needed to be ironic and eccentric

Precisely. Detachment is a better qualifier than alienation.

 

[Clinamenic]

And the irony and eccentricity are critical too. Only the irony seems to be more playful than usual, in the case of quirk. Thats what would specialize it within postmodernism.

 

[luka]

have you watched the classics of French quirk Stan?

 

[Clinamenic]

I think John Mulaney is a great example of mainstream quirk, how quirk can appeal to more than it usually does.

There is a sort of playfulness that is exercised as a departure from a sort of postmodern numbness and emotional withdrawal. The kind of austere undertones that characterize Mulaney, in my opinion, instantiate this.

 

[Clinamenic]

have you watched the classics of French quirk Stan?

Who do you have in mind? I've seen some of Godard, Rohmer, Rivette, etc. etc. and I do pick up on quirk here and there, but maybe I'm missing what you are pointing to.

 

[luka]

ive never seen a wes anderson on the grounds that the stills tell you all you need to know

 

[WashYourHands]

Mon Uncle has to be seen. Mulaney is a gimp compared to Tati

 

[luka]

Who do you have in mind? I've seen some of Godard, Rohmer, Rivette, etc. etc. and I do pick up on quirk here and there, but maybe I'm missing what you are pointing to.

try the ones i mentioned in this thread particularly tati

 

[Clinamenic]

I think of that Jean Seberg character as more counterculture that borders on quirk.

 

[Clinamenic]

Mon Uncle has to be seen. Mulaney is a gimp compared to Tati

I've only seen Mr. Hulot's holiday and half of Playtime, but yeah that is one I overlooked. Those I would definitely describe as quirky.

Also haven't seen any Pee Wee films, but maybe those qualify as well.

Mr. Bean is dank quirk.

 

[luka]

i didnt mention breathless. that was a digression into the aesthetics of indie girls

 

[WashYourHands]

 

[luka]

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[Clinamenic]

I think Chaplin had some degree of quirkiness. Those mouth twitches, the waddle, etc.

 

[Clinamenic]

Keaton was austere alright but I wouldn't say quirky.

 

[luka]

quirkiness always registers as affectation. that is why it is so irritating

 

[WashYourHands]

the master

Shadows of Forgotten Ancestors (1965) - IMDb

Shadows of Forgotten Ancestors: Directed by Sergei Parajanov. With Ivan Mikolaychuk, Larisa Kadochnikova, Tatyana Bestayeva, Spartak Bagashvili. A timeless Carpathian story - the young Ivan falls in love with the daughter of his father's killer among the Hutsul people of Ukraine.

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The Color of Pomegranates (1969) - IMDb

The Color of Pomegranates: Directed by Sergei Parajanov. With Sofiko Chiaureli, Melkon Alekyan, Vilen Galstyan, Gogi Gegechkori. A surreal biopic of Armenian poet Sayat Nova, told via non-narrative amalgamations of images, hailed as revolutionary by Mikhail Vartanov.

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[Clinamenic]

quirkiness always registers as affectation. that is why it is so irritating

Perhaps in the more ersatz cases, yes. I'd say Deschanel enters that territory, which makes sense because her quirkiness exploded into the mainstream and had to be sustained at unnatural levels. But tell me Gabriel Garcia Bernal isn;t genuinely quirky in The Science of Sleep,

 

[Clinamenic]

Color of Pomegranates was perhaps the most visionary film I've seen, although its been a few years. Haven't seen any of his others though.

 

[WashYourHands]

Go on son

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