Experiments in Autodidacticism

[luka]

i wold prescribe a prynne a day. as a corrective. learning how to read, or learning how to start learning how to read is absolutely vital

 

[Clinamenic]

There a PDF I can use? @woops ?

 

[woops]

haven't looked for a .pdf cos i have the paperback third edition, hardback second edition, first edition of kitchen poems and reprint of the oval window. you can get a reprint of the white stones if you really don't want to shell out for the big yellow one. but you should.

 

[luka]

yeah but white stones is not the one, you need the complete, i think there is a hack out there

 

[woops]

just get the book you won't regret it @Clinamenic

 

[Clinamenic]

i wold prescribe a prynne a day. as a corrective. learning how to read, or learning how to start learning how to read is absolutely vital

Per exogenous prescription:

Using this text:

http://quintus.memoryoftheworld.org/J.%20H.%20Prynne/Poems%20(47406)/Poems%20-%20J.%20H.%20Prynne.pdf

 

[luka]

just always remember that reading is hard and its not a passive activity

 

[luka]

you are limited by your current knowledge when it comes to interpretation but not when it comes to making the words wriggle in the mind

 

[Clinamenic]

just always remember that reading is hard and its not a passive activity

I'm not expecting anywhere near maximum impact as of now, though. As you say, its a corrective.

 

[Clinamenic]

One that may have to rage against the inner constituency.

 

[Clinamenic]

I was actually considering doing the same thing with Blake.

 

[william kent]

I think reading anything over an extended period hampers immersion, particularly if you're also trying to read several things at once.

I don't think it's a coincidence that two of the most potent reading experiences I've had came when I read the books in question more or less every day and finished them quickly.

 

[luka]

I'm not expecting anywhere near maximum impact as of now, though. As you say, its a corrective.

youll go far with that attitude

 

[woops]

I think reading anything over an extended period hampers immersion, particularly if you're also trying to read several things at once.

it's different if it's poems that are 2-3 pages long though isn't it.

 

[william kent]

it's different if it's poems that are 2-3 pages long though isn't it.

Yeah, but I'm talking about Stan trying to read GR, Deleuze, Nietzsche etc at once.

 

[Clinamenic]

I think reading anything over an extended period hampers immersion, particularly if you're also trying to read several things at once.

This I think was my issue with GR. But true isolated focus is more or less untenable, given what I;m trying to do. That said, I can focus the Lit day on GR.

My tactic with many of the other topics involves extended passive exposure to the concepts and terms, which eventually sets the stage for a more fruitful and active engagement with the material in its fuller singularity. I doubt this applies to poetry and prose though.

 

[william kent]

A book like GR is crammed full of subjects anyway, so you're already getting something of an encyclopaedic spread.

 

[Clinamenic]

Plateaus I'm more or less comfortable setting aside, seeing as I got a nice harvest from D&G during that last run, and in the rear-view mirror much of it looks like superfluous verbiage. Could just be the perspectival shift felt by a pull to minimalism from maximalism, which may have also dampened my appreciation of GR.

 

[Clinamenic]

A book like GR is crammed full of subjects anyway, so you're already getting something of an encyclopaedic spread.

Yeah thats another major point in favor of GR, in terms of this whole multi-disc. paradigm. On even a pragmatic level it was useful in terms of connecting otherwise disparate loci of thought, what with the nonstop flow of maths/stats metaphors.

 

[Clinamenic]

Yeah, but I'm talking about Stan trying to read GR, Deleuze, Nietzsche etc at once.

Yeah a major learning curve with this whole thing: more is not always more. But there always seems to be an avenue for advancement, just perhaps not in a brute, quantitative way.