shakahislop
Well-known member
first and foremost, i want to make an upfront declaration that i don't fancy her. i found out what she looked like about a year ago, and i was surprised that i didn't, i had just assumed i would.
i've liked her for different reasons at various points over the past decade. i think overall she is variously quite shit and an absolute genius. i think she fits into the 'arty shit' category more than the 'pop' or 'indie' categories. think there's a lot going on with her, and the overall effect is to get at something quite complex about human experience.
i like the pervert comments. they capture one aspect of the appeal i think. which is that she is doing the female submissive self-objectification thing. i'm always quite surprised that she gets away with it without more commentary to be honest. it's mixed in as well with a really dependent, kind of horrific idea of love, which she valorises all the time.
her second album is fairly fucked up really. she honestly doesn't sound well. she reminds me of kanye in that respect, in that the lack of self-awareness, or i guess just the fact she's realized that it works, means that she ends up admitting to various attitudes and desires which mostly people keep hidden.
there's something as well that she does, that i can't quite put my finger on, which is about bringing some aspect of the attitudes of mainstream US hiphop into a white space. there are bits and pieces of what she does lyrically which are only shocking because they're being expressed by a white middle class lady.
i've liked her for different reasons at various points over the past decade. i think overall she is variously quite shit and an absolute genius. i think she fits into the 'arty shit' category more than the 'pop' or 'indie' categories. think there's a lot going on with her, and the overall effect is to get at something quite complex about human experience.
i like the pervert comments. they capture one aspect of the appeal i think. which is that she is doing the female submissive self-objectification thing. i'm always quite surprised that she gets away with it without more commentary to be honest. it's mixed in as well with a really dependent, kind of horrific idea of love, which she valorises all the time.
her second album is fairly fucked up really. she honestly doesn't sound well. she reminds me of kanye in that respect, in that the lack of self-awareness, or i guess just the fact she's realized that it works, means that she ends up admitting to various attitudes and desires which mostly people keep hidden.
there's something as well that she does, that i can't quite put my finger on, which is about bringing some aspect of the attitudes of mainstream US hiphop into a white space. there are bits and pieces of what she does lyrically which are only shocking because they're being expressed by a white middle class lady.
