Clinamatic's venture to the rap dungeon
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what you mean by new fangled amerikkkans? you mean the soundcloud people? cause i'd say they definitly have the beat bop dna in them
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Ironman's really good, it's a singular album in that it has certain qualities and a level of darkness that's not there on his later albums
It's RZA in full 70s southern soul sample mode but you also get beats like "Marvel" where the keyboard stuff starts to creep in and you have True Master get his first spot on any Wu album (Fish), you lot bring up the Force MDs and they're on one of my favourite songs of the album hell fav Ghostface tracks period "The Soul Controller" which criminally cause of sample clearance issues got taken off later versions of the album
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anyways this has already veered off topic cause i know @Clinamenic is probably wondering WTF is any of this "the RZA? the man with the iron fists guy? oh yeah i know of him, seems like a black Shostakovich kinda figure"
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when do you want me to send the next duo of tunes btw? @Clinamenic was thinking of doing it every couple of days but i imagine you must still want to time to just take those two in
No, I just mean Clinamatic and Suspended and them. Posters here, not rappers.
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that's the song woops was listening to. he was listening to it becasue i posted it on this thread for him to listen to. becasue it's got the force mds on it.
just keep pummeling him remorselessly, don't let him breathe. we have to stop him making posts about how cryptocurrency will recast this fallen world into an earthly paradise.
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somebody made a good point a while back that all the man dem who used to make bets in a local bookies are the same guys who are all deeply invested in the cryptocurreny business
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since we're on the talk of live instrumentation in rap lemme give @Clinamenic these 2 examples both iconic groups but very different songs
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Wildly offtopic but I don't agree. Stylish analogy though it is. My old man was in the bookies all the time and there's an air of deep despair and misery. It's a very working class pursuit. I get the sense crypto is much more "bro-ey" full of obnoxious overconfident Americans.
Both anomalies from outside New York.
Those guys aren't gambling on crypto, most of em couldn't switch on a computer. There is online betting now though I guess
I have an unproven thesis that hip hop getting darker is tied into the rise of crack. There's an interesting photo book of 80s NY called "A Time Before Crack". This track seems to evidence that (another early example of rap going a bit heavy).
This was very controversial at the time, due to the celebratory chorus.
This was very controversial at the time, due to the celebratory chorus.
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maybe crack incubated a new, more predatory and purified form of blackmarket capitalism and competition.... or something.
the stories you hear about money being made are mind-blowing
Lord knows, Tommy had Laurelton sold
Helicopters, Rolls Royces with Louis Vuitton interior
Might sound like I'm fantasizing, but, son, I'm dead serious
Montana was no dummy, brought business to wash the money
Had money out the ass, he politic like the Asian
Feds couldn't catch him dirty, so settled for tax evasion
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Thomas “Tony Montana” Mickens was a prominent Laurelton, Queens drug dealer who was among the smartest of the bunch and came up with unique ways to launder and spend drug money (including starting a chain of businesses in Queens under the “Montana” name). As an example of his baller ways, he once bought a thirty-eight-foot yacht for $110,467.20 in cash – it took the salesman three hours to count the bills (Brown, p.59)
In 1990, Mickens was sentenced to 35 years in prison for charges including tax evasion. Read here for the detailed story of his arrest and life. He was released in 2008
the stories you hear about money being made are mind-blowing
Lord knows, Tommy had Laurelton sold
Helicopters, Rolls Royces with Louis Vuitton interior
Might sound like I'm fantasizing, but, son, I'm dead serious
Montana was no dummy, brought business to wash the money
Had money out the ass, he politic like the Asian
Feds couldn't catch him dirty, so settled for tax evasion
Genius Annotation
Thomas “Tony Montana” Mickens was a prominent Laurelton, Queens drug dealer who was among the smartest of the bunch and came up with unique ways to launder and spend drug money (including starting a chain of businesses in Queens under the “Montana” name). As an example of his baller ways, he once bought a thirty-eight-foot yacht for $110,467.20 in cash – it took the salesman three hours to count the bills (Brown, p.59)
In 1990, Mickens was sentenced to 35 years in prison for charges including tax evasion. Read here for the detailed story of his arrest and life. He was released in 2008