Pandemic missed opportunities

mixed_biscuits

mixed_biscuits

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Mr. Tea said:
I'm not going to get dragged any further into discussing thus guy, since it's obviously a complete waste of time, but I will say that it's absolutely typical that you've latched onto one guy who says what you want to hear and have decided his ideas are gospel truth, precisely because he's a dissenting voice. The fact that the medical establishment is virtually unanimous in agreeing that covid-19 vaccines represent a net benefit is, for you, proof that they're wrong, because for you 'the establishment' is always wrong by definition.

It's the same pathology that underlies everything from 9/11 Trutherism to climate denialism to Holocaust revisionism to the Flat Earth movement.
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I don't think you get how science works (or, at least, should work): if conclusion D depends on A, B and C, and a peer-reviewed paper comes out saying A is wrong with an evidenced argument then you have to refute that argument to still hold to D. It doesn't matter how many people have said what A says, not least because things that other people haven't pointed out before are preferentially published*. It's not a numbers game, it rests on logic which itself depends on evidence and one new piece of evidence can sink an entire ship.

Obv your stats skills and critical thinking are not up to the job so you've wheeled out Godwin's Law.

*So in your simpleton model of mainstream vs 'dissenters' maximally creative paradigm-shifting science would be maximally ignorable as nobody would agree with anything newly published.
 
Mr. Tea

Mr. Tea

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mixed_biscuits said:
Why don't you debunk that quotation I posted that proposes that the trial gene therapy was completely ineffective? Do some science for once
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As I've already said, I tracked the data, and for months on end, unvaccinated people had much higher mortality than vaccinated people. The quote doesn't need to "be debunked" - reality debunked it two years ago. You can puff and splutter about 'superficial analyses' all you like, but that's such a piss-poor argument I can tell you're not even really convincing yourself.

Your claim relies on a conspiracy that would have to involve every member of the Office for National Statistics (3,300 employees), to say nothing of the NHS (about 1.5 million). This is what puts you in the same boat as the Flat Earth lot.
 
mixed_biscuits

mixed_biscuits

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Mr. Tea said:
As I've already said, I tracked the data, and for months on end, unvaccinated people had much higher mortality than vaccinated people. The quote doesn't need to "be debunked" - reality debunked it two years ago. You can puff and splutter about 'superficial analyses' all you like, but that's such a piss-poor argument I can tell you're not even really convincing yourself.

Your claim relies on a conspiracy that would have to involve every member of the Office for National Statistics (3,300 employees), to say nothing of the NHS (about 1.5 million). This is what puts you in the same boat as the Flat Earth lot.
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Just debunk it, you windbag; this is your chance to use that science.

Of course your analysis is superficial: it's one paragraph long ffs

Hilarious that you counter an argument pointing out the flaw in argumentum ad populum with just more people. I mean 'more people' would be useful in the absence of the details of the debate but all the details are there...
 
Mr. Tea

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In all seriousness it's looking a like she may have killed herself, given her mental health struggles over the years.
 
luka

luka

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i don't know what it's done to me i guess. it's a but early to say but what i think characterised the period was the ambient anxiety which served to heighten everyday experience to something like a teenage pitch of clarity.
 
Murphy

Murphy

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We could’ve gone on some form of national strike when collective leverage was a live factor but instead we clapped the nhs, besides Piers Corbyn would’ve ruined it all anyway

luka said:
i don't know what it's done to me i guess. it's a but early to say but what i think characterised the period was the ambient anxiety which served to heighten everyday experience to something like a teenage pitch of clarity.
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Supermarkets were like an Argento film, their staff were heroes manning checkouts, now it’s 5£ a loaf
 
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