sus

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didn't figure you to resort to whataboutism, no one here is defending factory farms. FF and CP can both be heinous, they aren't mutually exclusive.
Do you think you should be on an animal abuser list for eating hamburgers? Do you think eating a hamburger is "maybe a slight degree below actually doing the abusing, but pretty damn close"? These are your own words. I'm not playing whataboutism, I'm just extending your logic to its conclusion. Bite the bullet, retract the logic, or challenge the analogy.
 

sus

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I imagine the argument against legalising CGI child porn is that it could be seen by someone whose desires in that direction had until then been dormant or at least heavily suppressed, and thereby make them more likely to actually want to do something like that in real life.

I don't know if that's how this kind of psychology actually works, but it at least sounds plausible to me.
It's perfectly plausible and reasonable, but everything I've read about pedophilia is that it's "wired up in the womb" and can't be suppressed

That said, it's clear that changing sexual norms have made homosexuality more prevalent in the West so I'd take these scientific reports with a grain of salt, seeing as everyone claimed five years ago there was zero cultural component to bumming—obviously wrong in retrospect
 

Leo

Well-known member
Do you think you should be on an animal abuser list for eating hamburgers? Do you think eating a hamburger is "maybe a slight degree below actually doing the abusing, but pretty damn close"? These are your own words. I'm not playing whataboutism, I'm just extending your logic to its conclusion. Bite the bullet, retract the logic, or challenge the analogy.

Sure, yes, put meat eaters on an animal abusers registry. But since the vast majority of people don't view animals on the same level as humans, it would be meaningless (I believe the term you used was "virtue signaling"), wouldn't accomplish anything.

also, sounding like a self-righteous arse isn't necessary.
 
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WashYourHands

Cat Malogen
Do you think you should be on an animal abuser list for eating hamburgers? Do you think eating a hamburger is "maybe a slight degree below actually doing the abusing, but pretty damn close"? These are your own words. I'm not playing whataboutism, I'm just extending your logic to its conclusion. Bite the bullet, retract the logic, or challenge the analogy.

you don’t fuck an animal before slaughter and before you retort, no, eating meat is neither an excuse for industrial scale meat production or noncing nippers

It's perfectly plausible and reasonable, but everything I've read about pedophilia is that it's "wired up in the womb" and can't be suppressed

That said, it's clear that changing sexual norms have made homosexuality more prevalent in the West so I'd take these scientific reports with a grain of salt, seeing as everyone claimed five years ago there was zero cultural component to bumming—obviously wrong in retrospect

a new low, admit to being slightly overwhelmed by the respective levels of wrong/ignorance contained herein
 

sus

Moderator
a new low, admit to being slightly overwhelmed by the respective levels of wrong/ignorance contained herein
If you don't think that sexuality is contagious, then you're deep in repression my friend. From beauty standards (the progressive-friendly line) to homosexuality (the conservative-friendly line). And really, I actually have no issue with homosexuality spreading, it doesn't even have to be in service of a repressive stance. But it is spreading.
 

sus

Moderator
I'm sorry but unless you think that the Greeks "biologically" were "predisposed" to widespread homosexuality and pederasty (what a regressive view) then there's an aspect of the social. Just because this is something Tories say in trying to oppose gay rights doesn't mean it's factually wrong. You don't need to follow the conclusions, just accept the premise.
 

sus

Moderator
I'm sorry I don't mean to be a smartass but really, I don't think people are being especially coherent here.
 

sus

Moderator
Rates of bisexuality among zoomers are much higher than you'd suppose from the naive "biological prevalence" estimates. That's cultural.
 
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