US Election 2024
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Clinamenic
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I love America.
Clinamenic
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Aside from his views on gender-affirming care, gay marriage, and abortion, I actually don’t take much issue with Vance, based on what I know now. I’d guess I’d take as much issue with him as I would Harris, but I’m not deeply familiar with either of them.
His Thiel connection and the Yarvin connection both weird me out, but it seems like you’re gonna get weird connections with any politician at this scale. As a progressive, social values wise, I wonder what issues other folks here take with him.
For me, I’m progressive in terms of social values, but classically liberal in terms of the role of government, which puts me in a weird overlap between Democratic and Republican values.
His Thiel connection and the Yarvin connection both weird me out, but it seems like you’re gonna get weird connections with any politician at this scale. As a progressive, social values wise, I wonder what issues other folks here take with him.
For me, I’m progressive in terms of social values, but classically liberal in terms of the role of government, which puts me in a weird overlap between Democratic and Republican values.
version
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I think we already knew this would be the case, but the presence of smartphones clearly hasn't resulted in a definitive account of what happened.
There seems be consensus on the shooter being the person named, that he was on the identified rooftop, that he fired shots at Trump and hit members of the audience, that he was killed by the Secret Service, and so on, but that's mostly based on official reports and eyewitness testimony. The wave of blurry phone footage that hit social media's just led to rampant speculation on the behaviour of the Secret Service, picking out suspicious figures in the crowd, and general theorising and sensationalism. The existence of many Zapruder films just seems to lead to more questions.
Clinamenic
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I guess much of it also depends on if its true that Trump's would-be administration wants to replace nonpartisan career government bureaucrats with partisan ones. That could be overblown fearmongering from Democrats, but it could also be true. Even if it is true, its one thing to plan it, but its another thing to actually overhaul the personnel of a sprawling governmental apparatus within four years.
Clinamenic
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Well honestly I don’t know the demographic makeup of US executive bureaucracy, but I’d prefer it to be as nonpartisan as possible. I’d like to say that career bureaucrats are good in this respect, but I also think that normalizing that too much may result in bureaucratic sprawl and bloat, which I think has good and bad consequences.
Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
Perish the thought!
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I hate gastropubs.
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Careful, you let some opinions out there.
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The animating Democrat conspiracy theory that Trump will turn the US into a fascist dictatorship is unusual in that no-one actually seems to believe it. It's purely on the level of discourse to signal in-group affiliation. Why do I think no-one believes it? You can't get any odds on it from the bookies. So not a single person has placed a bet.
Clinamenic
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Well naturlich thats because, if it pans out, the bookies will be summarily gulaged and the would-be winnings confiscated to fund the erection of a bronze statue of Trump - and chiefly his erection, mind you.
Clinamenic
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I'll let my opinions out all over your face, you naughty rodent.
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Gulags were Communist; the thing that Americans think is the worst thing about Nazism was actually Communist. That is amazing.
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I'll bet anybody on this forum £100 that, should Trump be elected, the US will NOT become a one-party dictatorship. Barring Zelensky-like temporary changes because of war. Anyone willing to take me up on this?
I won't take bets on the Democrat party in particular being audited and dissolved, however.
I won't take bets on the Democrat party in particular being audited and dissolved, however.
Clinamenic
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As Americans, we regard all our enemies merely as unamerican, their other nuances notwithstanding.
Clinamenic
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Gulag, ghetto, tomato, tomato.
version
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And because the Dems had four years to plan for the "most important election of our lifetimes" and still opted for a crumbling Biden-Harris ticket.