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yes, you have said that as regards behaviour and gender, but your argument is incoherent, because you wouldn't be attracted to a trans man with a phalloplasty or metoidioplasty.
but you wouldn't be queer for them if they
Ok guess I'm not queer then can't say I care. I guess I'm not attracted to any particular gender I just like clits
 

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Ok so I'm a femboy who is attracted to clits and vaginas

You've contradicted yourself at least three times in the last two pages. this is what happens when you base your whole philosophical outlook on the gaze and significations, and abandon the dialectical method. job well done!
 

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You've contradicted yourself at least three times in the last two pages. this is what l when you base your whole philosophical outlook on the gaze and significations, and abandon the dialectical method. job well done!
Pointing out inconsistencies in an argument is exegetical scorekeeping and thus a bad argument. Surely a dialectician should understand that people can correct their mistakes. Also I criticize the male gaze frequently
 

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Pointing out inconsistencies in an argument is exegetical scorekeeping and thus a bad argument.
Surely a dialectician should understand that people can correct their mistakes. Also I criticize the male gaze frequently

I told how to correct your mistakes, but you don't want to. and you keep mentioning exegetical scorekeeping as if it's some trumpcard, but without said exegetical scorekeeping, philosophy would not progress, no matter what certain academic philosophers say.

and, btw, I'm not talking about the male gaze but the mechanical, empiricist gaze of the 18th century.
 

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I told how to correct your mistakes, but you don't want to.
No you didn't? How do I correct my mistakes I want to know
and you keep mentioning exegetical scorekeeping as if it's some trumpcard, but without said exegetical scorekeeping, philosophy would not progress, no matter what certain academic philosophers say.
Do you have any evidence of this? Also almost all philosophers reject exegetical scorekeeping.
 

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and, btw, I'm not talking about the male gaze but the mechanical, empiricist gaze of the 18th century.
How are you going to do materialist science if you reject mechanisms and empiricism? Also organisms are more important to my view than mechanisms
 

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No you didn't? How do I correct my mistakes I want to know

First you must start from negativity: 'there is no such thing as a sexual relationship.' Once you start from the lack, you can work to defining what it is, rather than immediately starting as I am xyz.
Do you have any evidence of this? Also almost all philosophers reject exegetical scorekeeping.

no they didn't, not up until Hegel. your knowledge of philosophy is solely restricted to the 20th century, when philosophy had become outmoded. you have no conception of how philosophy developed, you're just trapped in friendly philosophers vs enemy philosophers.
 

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First you must start from negativity: 'there is no such thing as a sexual relationship.' Once you start from the lack, you can work to defining what it is, rather than immediately starting as I am xyz
But I do start with negation. Femininity negates masculinity. My view presupposes lacan. What do u think It means that there's no sexual relationship
no they didn't, not up until Hegel. your knowledge of philosophy is solely restricted to the 20th century, when philosophy had become outmoded. you have no conception of how philosophy developed, you're just trapped in friendly philosophers vs enemy philosophers.
Uh no I am a legitimate historian of philosophy. Trained and everything. You love to exaggerate your credentials. Why don't you give one example of a good exegetical scorekeeping argument In the history of philosophy
 

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But I do start with negation. Femininity negates masculinity. My view presupposes lacan. What do u think It means that there's no sexual relationship

Yes, you start with the negation, but not the negation of the negation. Even femininity as traditionally understood can be negated to a higher form by genderfluidity, or feminine men. What you fail to see is that rather than femininity negating masculinity, the negation per individuals will still mean the masculine still exists within opposition, either constitutive and defining of, or that to be against.
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Uh no I am a legitimate historian of philosophy. Trained and everything. You love to exaggerate your credentials. Why don't you give one example of a good exegetical scorekeeping argument In the history of philosophy

you're not though, when I asked you about duns scotus' univocity of being you started floundering like a fish out of water.
 

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the true import of 'there is no such thing as a sexual relationship' is that ultimately, men and women don't exist as hypostatised entities. they only exist in their relaytion to each other, the other defines its other.
 

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Yes, you start with the negation, but not the negation of the negation. Even femininity as traditionally understood can be negated to a higher form by genderfluidity, or feminine men. What you fail to see is that rather than femininity negating masculinity, the negation per individuals will still mean the masculine still exists within opposition, either constitutive and defining of, or that to be against.
This is all interesting I just don't see how this is a criticism of my view
you're not though, when I asked you about duns scotus' univocity of being you started floundering like a fish out of water.
I admit I never studied medieval philosophy thats my only blind spot I want to study it though
 

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the true import of 'there is no such thing as a sexual relationship' is that ultimately, men and women don't exist as hypostatised entities. they only exist in their relaytion to each other, the other defines its other.
Right but that seems consistent with my view
 
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