Loveless Era vs Isn't Anything era

Loveless Era vs Isn't Anything era

  • Loveless, glider, tremolo

    Votes: 5 71.4%

  • Isn't Anything, you made me realize, feed me with your kiss

    Votes: 2 28.6%
  • Total voters
    7
DLaurent

DLaurent

Well-known member
I saw them at Manchester Apollo. One of the few proper 'gigs' I've been too. I'll have to think about before I cast a vote. Not that I'm a massive fan but it was enjoyable to see them, especially the noise part of You Made Me Realise that went on for 15 minutes and made all the security wonder what was going on.
 
Murphy

Murphy

cat malogen
Only own one record, unsurprisingly Weatherall’s remix of Soon, discovered during one extended drug-induced evening in Hulme flats

Not experienced enough with their material to comment beyond such but what an advertisement to the late great remixing machine. Must’ve converted entire cohorts of floppy mop-chopped indie yoofs over to the Doveside
 
shakahislop

shakahislop

Well-known member
never been a big fan of the recorded output but seeing them live was a revelation. i'd never had an experience like it . it jolted me out of complacency about what live music and arguably art in general was capable of
 
Benny Bunter

Benny Bunter

Well-known member
This is a really hard choice actually, both good albums, but I'll go for Loveless cos it was the first one I heard and it was genuinely confusing and mind warping, took me quite a while to get into it and for those lovely melodies to emerge from the layers of noise.

Always thought you made me realise was a bit overrated, but I've never experienced them live so that's probably why.

Haven't listened to them for years and I doubt they'd have the same effect on me as they used to now.
None of the other shoegaze bands ever got close to them though.

MBV got me into @blissblogger actually, cos I got Blissed Out out of the library to read about them and then discovered loads of other good stuff from there, (including his blog, Woebot and eventually Dissensus) so I'll always have affection for them.
 
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thirdform

pass the sick bucket
i love how in america there is no regional tribalism about music. i mean there isn't even tribalism. noone would get shot for liking the wrong records from the wrong months.

@blissblogger have you inducted Kieran into musical tribal hatred?
 
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thirdform

pass the sick bucket
even @luka can only like wonderwall because anything else from oasis discography would be too much of a concession to guitar bands and that would cause him to be seen as a scoundrel and a criminal
 
Corpsey

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
Oasis are a bit MBV at points, i think that's probably the best way to argue for them from an artsy perspective, even if it was accidental
 
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martin

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The first song on Loveless sounds interesting and all over the place.
Ten minutes in, you realise Alan McGee thought whammy bars were some sort of fairy magic.
 
Benny Bunter

Benny Bunter

Well-known member
Corpsey said:
Oasis are a bit MBV at points, i think that's probably the best way to argue for them from an artsy perspective, even if it was accidental
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Definitely Maybe's sound is quite MBV I agree, everything swirling together, psychedelic in its own way
 
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Corpsey said:
Oasis are a bit MBV at points, i think that's probably the best way to argue for them from an artsy perspective, even if it was accidental
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Taylor Parkes comes back with a clarification/elaboration upon his claim that MBV poisoned the Britrock pond for half-a-decade

"I was thinking more generally of the shift from the clean sounds of the 1980s (where the interplay between instruments was crucial) to the early-90s thing of massed, ultra-distorted guitars - which I remember extending way beyond shoegaze - encouraging laziness in playing and arrangement. In other words, MBV used that sound, subtly and with great skill, to create new atmospheres, while a thousand bands that emerged in the next few years just blasted away with a bunch of effects pedals and hoped for the best, and it wasn't just the shoegazers. That messy sound hung on as far as Oasis - very much a post-Valentines band, but with all the avant-garde stuff stripped away. They very definitely stole the big billowing guitar sound from "Isn't Anything" while missing the point. They played neat Beatley songs which were too slight to stand up by themselves, so they reached for the blizzard-of-noise to give themselves a lift - and the result was a sort of sludge that stopped them developing as a band (although I doubt that would have happened anyway), and was a million miles from the kind of skilful two-guitar pop their songwriting drew on. That bleary sound wouldn't have existed without "Isn't Anything" and "Loveless". I just seem to remember almost every group for the best part of a decade featuring two guitarists thrashing away with lazy strumming, amplified and distorted to hell. No subtlety, no push-and-pull, just an almighty racket that really had nothing in common with MBV's sculpted noise, but was clearly drawn from it. It was what made most indie rock gigs so miserable throughout the 90s."
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Benny Bunter

Benny Bunter

Well-known member
The other similarity between mbv and oasis is the classic 60s guitar pop melodies. Beatles for both obviously, but mbv leaning more into the beach boys and languid lazy stretched-out Kinks style than oasis.
 
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