The Culture War is Over

[luka]

i like my punishment to be somewhat punitive too. and i like my fulfilment to be fulfilling. and my food to be full of food.

 

[germaphobian]

Sweden's government may be notionally 'liberal' but the biggest party in the ruling coalition is the right-wing populists, who are also the second-biggest party overall in the Riksdag.

You're right yeah, although they tried to keep them (the right-wing populists) out for as long as possible, but - on the other hand - the coalition also has moderates and liberals, so it's bit of a mix really. But that presents another problem which was expressed by Brecht in that little poem:

After the uprising of the 17th June
The Secretary of the Writers Union
Had leaflets distributed in the Stalinallee
Stating that the people
Had forfeited the confidence of the government
And could win it back only
By redoubled efforts. Would it not be easier
In that case for the government
To dissolve the people
And elect another?

So people give majority of their votes, or at least a large percentage, to right-wing populist parties; and I'm quite sure that it will only intensify, so what's the solution? Liberal dictatorship, liberal one party state? There was actually a talk in Germany of banning AFD, now pretty much the most popular party in the country, at least in the East. Seems kind of crazy.
Of course, another solution would be to defang the right wing parties by adressing some of the issues that push people to vote for them, and that's what it think is happening. It's a tactic not a strategy really.

 

[mixed_biscuits]

The lefties consider themselves to be masters of understanding different peoples and viewpoints but they're manifestly utterly incapable of understanding the conservative mindset and of accommodating it, even if they don't understand. This is why they cannot consider themselves masters of multiculturalism.

 

[sufi]

You're right yeah, although they tried to keep them (the right-wing populists) out for as long as possible, but - on the other hand - the coalition also has moderates and liberals, so it's bit of a mix really. But that presents another problem which was expressed by Brecht in that little poem:

After the uprising of the 17th June
The Secretary of the Writers Union
Had leaflets distributed in the Stalinallee
Stating that the people
Had forfeited the confidence of the government
And could win it back only
By redoubled efforts. Would it not be easier
In that case for the government
To dissolve the people
And elect another?

So people give majority of their votes, or at least a large percentage, to right-wing populist parties; and I'm quite sure that it will only intensify, so what's the solution? Liberal dictatorship, liberal one party state? There was actually a talk in Germany of banning AFD, now pretty much the most popular party in the country, at least in the East. Seems kind of crazy.
Of course, another solution would be to defang the right wing parties by adressing some of the issues that push people to vote for them, and that's what it think is happening. It's a tactic not a strategy really.

sure, politics grinds on, but the bigots have to talk about immigration now since racism is not allowed, they have to go on about trans and abortion since sexism and homophobia is banned - their culture war has run out of road

 

[sufi]

The lefties consider themselves to be masters of understanding different peoples and viewpoints but they're manifestly utterly incapable of understanding the conservative mindset and of accommodating it, even if they don't understand. This is why they cannot consider themselves masters of multiculturalism.

i think mistresses of multiculturalism might be more apt? and somehow fruitier imagery?

in any case this is a hilarious logical somersault, more of this acrobatics please

 

[mixed_biscuits]

i think mistresses of multiculturalism might be more apt? and somehow fruitier imagery?

in any case this is a hilarious logical somersault, more of this acrobatics please

Disregarding conservatives in failing to provide a safe space for them should be a hate crime; see my upcoming thread.