I think it's because the left wing hold to the blank slate theory of mind and personality that they believe in these indoctrination conspiracy theories, and think also that their critics are only critics because they've been indoctrinated and the solution to their indoctrination is being indoctrinated in some other way. Good luck with the indoctrination. You'll need it.You can't take something like the response to the Jaguar ad in isolation because of what you're saying in your last paragraph. Yeah, the media don't need to say anything negative for people to find it irritating, but that irritation's partly down to their audience having been primed by years of hysterical coverage. They create their viewers to a certain extent. Someone gets pulled in due to agreeing on a particular issue or just being entertained, then, as they spend more time with it, they begin to be shaped by it and take on more of their viewpoints.
I'm not claiming the media can make absolutely anything they want stick 100% of the time or that it works on everybody, I'm claiming prolonged exposure to negative coverage can influence some people's opinions. This is what I was referring to with the Fox comment. They've spent decades conditioning their audience to be furious and unreasonable and it works. There are plenty of Americans who'll tell you how their parents started watching Fox and ended up at a point where they spend all day in front of it and can no longer hold a sensible conversation.
I think it's because the left wing hold to the blank slate theory of mind and personality that they believe in these indoctrination conspiracy theories, and think also that their critics are only critics because they've been indoctrinated and the solution to their indoctrination is being indoctrinated in some other way. Good luck with the indoctrination. You'll need it.
@versh I asked for a description of the radicalisation you claim, with reference to attitudes changing over time, but all you did was repeat the hand-waving and clichés.
As I said, there are academic studies of attitudes.
If they already subscribe to Fox values where is the indoctrination? Fox is just bringing latent potential.How does such a blanket statement line up with my specifically stressing words like 'can' and 'some' and making a point of saying I don't believe it applies to everyone or works 100% of the time? Very reductive interpretation of what I said. The blank slate thing's a mischaracterisation too as I explicitly stressed these networks building on people already agreeing with them on some issues.
I'm not an academic, this isn't a forum for academics and academia isn't the be all and end all. I'm not going to stick a note after every single sentence of a post stressing it's a thought or opinion.
But I do need actual examples of this radicalisation of the right.I find it difficult to believe you wouldn't hold American liberal media at least partly responsible for 'TDS'. You don't need academic sources to sense that people's opinions can be influenced by the information they receive and the way in which it's communicated.
you!But I do need actual examples of this radicalisation of the right.
If they already subscribe to Fox values where is the indoctrination? Fox is just bringing latent potential.
Which particular values or attitudes have changed among America's conservatives during Fox's existence?
I wonder what GB news and Talk TV viewing figures are compared to the BBC's.
In the US, independent shows like Megyn Kelly and Tucker Carson were smashing the fuck out of the big mainstream channels (including Fox, I would imagine) in terms of viewing figures on YouTube during the election. It's a real crisis over there.
I know it's not directly comparable, but still.
For simplicity, let's just say the conservatives have traditional Christian values. Although their values may not have changed, they correctly see their society becoming ever less trad Christian. This brings about frustration and an intensification of attitudes against the people and ideas they consider to be blockers. Liberals are conceding less and less to Christians so what do they expect?; these religions have been around for millennia with minimal change whereas the latest set of liberal practices has been around for a mayfly's fart.