Who's got the juice?

yyaldrin

yyaldrin

in je ogen waait de wind
versh said:
What's up with it? The sense from over here (England) is usually that they're more competently governed than we are, although I suppose that's been a particularly low bar until very recently.
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one of the absurd things they did some years ago is add this extra bit to the constitution that says the country can't make any more debts. so now the economy is going to shit and they can't do any extra investments, it feels like a form of self-mortification only germans could come up with.
 
yyaldrin

yyaldrin

in je ogen waait de wind
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yyaldrin

yyaldrin

in je ogen waait de wind
it's weird you know. you see they're cutting budgets everywhere. i'm hearing loads of people losing their jobs, mainly in the arts and cultural fields, or getting their funding stopped. in the mean time you see all these ads for the military and you read about how they're allocating more money for the army and weapon production. it feels grim.
 
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0bleak

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old goriot said:
Berlin’s still technically the capital, but definitely no longer has the juice in techno. It doesn’t help that Germany is going to shit in general. Unmistakable “after the gold rush” vibes when I was there last year

If you’re gonna pick a place now it’s gotta be Amsterdam/Netherlands with ADE, awakenings, erste communie, verknipt, gashouder, rotterdam rave, dekmantel etc
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I was thinking more along the lines of the numbers of artists based there and the labels, much less a label like Tresor with a deep, decades long discography.
 
shakahislop

shakahislop

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Corpsey said:
some of these young buck americans / @shakahislop must have their ears to the streets, right?
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the artist who generates by far the most chatter here among the people who go out til 8 every weekend is DVS1. people fucking love him and see him as properly serious. he's the one who lights up the discord and therefore arguably has the juice.

but its podcasts that have the juice really at the moment, they are absolutely ascendent and mean more to people than tunes
 
DLaurent

DLaurent

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I've never been Berlin but my brother recently went and told me he could hear Techno pumping everywhere. Despite the Que Club holding some pretty big popular raves 20+ years ago, I don't think you could ever say it was written into Birmingham in the same way, but I think the music is better thanks to Surgeon. I listen to some of the tunes I play in mixes and imagine how it would have sounded in the old Methodist Church that was the Que Club. Never going to come back though.
 
Corpsey

Corpsey

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shakahislop said:
the artist who generates by far the most chatter here among the people who go out til 8 every weekend is DVS1. people fucking love him and see him as properly serious. he's the one who lights up the discord and therefore arguably has the juice.

but its podcasts that have the juice really at the moment, they are absolutely ascendent and mean more to people than tunes
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Isn't dvs1 an old balding man?

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shakahislop

shakahislop

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Corpsey said:
Isn't dvs1 an old balding man?

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yeah he is. idk the ravers here love him. he's a merge regular which is one of the most respected semi-underground parties here. although according to the discord it's apparently now cooked as of the last couple, to use their word. there's major drama at the moment around one of the other big underground parties which i won't name but it's the successor to unter coz they are saying you've got to have a girl with you to get in because they're as they seem to see it getting overrun with to use the local term circuit gays. i guess actually that's a big difference here compared to what i've seen of the late night drugs and dancing world in the uk, at least the d&b bit of it, it's pretty LGBTQ
 
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old goriot

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shakahislop said:
yeah he is. idk the ravers here love him. he's a merge regular which is one of the most respected semi-underground parties here. although according to the discord it's apparently now cooked as of the last couple, to use their word. there's major drama at the moment around one of the other big underground parties which i won't name but it's the successor to unter coz they are saying you've got to have a girl with you to get in because they're as they seem to see it getting overrun with to use the local term circuit gays. i guess actually that's a big difference here compared to what i've seen of the late night drugs and dancing world in the uk, at least the d&b bit of it, it's pretty LGBTQ
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DVS1 is great.. saw him a few months back and really enjoyed it, but he’s kind of like a J Dilla type figure.

And he keeps giving poorly received interviews where he shakes his fist at the young kids and complains that the djs outselling him 10 to 1 “aren’t real techno”. I’m sorry but that is definitionally not the behaviour of one who is imbued with the juice.
 
william_kent

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old goriot said:
This guy got the juice.. I’m not a big fan but he’s selling out these shows in literally 8 minutes



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I might have watched more than five minutes of this when I was out of it, I may have had a flashback to a sparsely attended nosebleed techno night in the 90s



klangkuenstler berlin secret rave

edit: entertaining just for watching the "interactions" - shibari rope bondage man thinks he is on a promise but teutonic hijab lady cruelly embraces some other guy, etc
 
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old goriot

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william_kent said:
I might have watched more than five minutes of this when I was out of it, I may have had a flashback to a sparsely attended nosebleed techno night in the 90s



klangkuenstler berlin secret rave

edit: entertaining just for watching the "interactions" - shibari rope bondage man thinks he is on a promise but teutonic hijab lady cruelly embraces some other guy, etc
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Techno’s “kaytranada boiler room”. Somehow this broke containment and got in the normie algorithm… had a co-worker show it to me and ask “is this what you’re into?”
 
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