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The King of Pussy Gettin

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Watched the doc though thanks. Likable talking heads sell the story well.
it's a perfectly fine movie and i'm glad they had a nice time dancing to falco in 1985, but the idea that those dorks were in some way an important part of dance music's overall development is not at all accurate.

i was childhood friends with a couple of kids who were related to rick squillante. dude showed up at one of their birthday parties once. my ten year old self found him terrifying.

here are some of his mixes:

 

The King of Pussy Gettin

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The older I get the better Techno gets. Most of the best sounds there from the best of dnb but sounds more original.


UNPOPULAR OPINION:

uk and euro ppl like black dog, maarten van vleuten, b12, dave angel, and kirk degeorgio were better at "detroit techno" than pretty much anyone ever born in the state of michigan
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
I'm a little more than halfway through that doc, do they ever start talking about the music?
There is one section but they don't really have the expertise to describe it well. Apparently it was really good and better than anything you could hear anywhere else.

Honestly though it was the best place they went and they loved it. I don't blame them for mythologising it.
 

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
Racking my brains for an unpopular opinion

There are songs and artists I like "despite myself", guilty pleasures, but I don't feel like that's an "opinion" so much as an instinctive feeling I can't shake off, ironise as I might
 

DLaurent

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UNPOPULAR OPINION:

uk and euro ppl like black dog, maarten van vleuten, b12, dave angel, and kirk degeorgio were better at "detroit techno" than pretty much anyone ever born in the state of michigan

I think you can always tell when it's UK versus Detroit. Detroit artists put the general Michigan style on it better. A few exceptions being someone like Stefan Robbers, and he's Dutch. Even Luke Slater you can tell is British.
 

thirdform

pass the sick bucket
UNPOPULAR OPINION:

uk and euro ppl like black dog, maarten van vleuten, b12, dave angel, and kirk degeorgio were better at "detroit techno" than pretty much anyone ever born in the state of michigan

Not sure if detroit techno really exists in that way tbh.

You rarely for instance have euro producers imitating Recloose or Ibex on Planet E. even the likes of Parrish have a more techno approach to house music.

if you want to say better at techno-qua-techno, then that's a different debate. black dog definitely. Same goes for dave angel, could rival many, perhaps with the exception of Mad Mike. Maarten van der Vleuten maybe, although crossed over with hardcore a bit. I would nominate Orlando Voorn instead. 100% unrivaled by anyone from detroit.

B12 no. Kirk Degiorgio also definitely not, too laboured and studied. I like the music of both but gotta be real, they are imitators, not trail blazers.
 

thirdform

pass the sick bucket
my unpopular opinions aren't unpopular on here though, stuff like preferring cheesy happy hardcore trash to progressive house or whatever. will raise eyebrows on other forums though.

Was talking about this hideous tune with Bunnyhausen the other day. So obnoxious.

how anyone could think of reviving this stuff is beyond me, and yet all the hip djs are.

organ in it gets really goblin-nonce, just a forewarning.
 

DLaurent

Well-known member
I think some of the most Detroit sounding stuff not from Detroit was released on Planet E anyway.
 
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