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All the brothers live such stories. Dennis died what, drunken, diving for pearls? Or an old photograph, fallen from his sloop.
 

thirdform

pass the sick bucket
he wants his underling to be tarred and flamed by the board that doesnt click 99 percent of the links posted
the same board he kvetches over not being what it used to be
Not even worth arguing whether Smile was innovative, that's been conclusively and scientifically established by now

But even, Wild Honey sounds nothing like Smile or Pet Sounds, suddenly this barbershop influenced surf group is doing blue eyed soul.

imagine not knowing about şerif muhiddin targan. just imagine it.
 

GhostofKinski

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Is that true? I feel like they change quite a bit stylistically even after Pet Sounds. And their late albums lay the template for a lot of pop to come.

Me n my college mates were obsessed with how prophetic All I Wanna Do Sounds, wrt that haunted hazy 00s indie sound.
Yeah they had a run of amazing creativity and found their own voice. The very early stuff was just Jan & Dean surf music. Very bubble gum. I guess you can make the comparison with the stones and Beatles that early on were almost exclusively R & B covers.
When Brian stopped producing though, unlike Jagger/Richards & Lennon McCartney it was over. I would even argue that a lot of the former Beatles best work was realized after the band broke up.
 
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sus

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Yeah they had a run of amazing creativity and found their own voice. The very early stuff was just Jan & Dean surf music. Very bubble gum. I guess you can make the comparison with the stones and Beatles that early on were almost exclusively R & B covers.
When Brian stopped producing though, unlike Jagger/Richards & Lennon McCartney it was over. I would even argue that a lot of the former Beatles best work was realized after the band broke up.
It never occured to me that Jagger or Richards had solo careers! Never heard anyone mention before. Will have to explore
 

sus

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Yeah I can't think of a song after Love & Mercy that has staying power, from Brian's solo career, and even that one's pretty slight, feels like a bad rehash

Dennis put together a decent album with Pacific Ocean Blue, "Time" is really moving. But yeah.
 

GhostofKinski

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It never occured to me that Jagger or Richards had solo careers! Never heard anyone mention before. Will have to explore
Well I never said they did. But they did put out solo material respectively. As did, Bill Wyman & some great stuff by Ronnie Wood.
I was referring (I thought quite clearly), to the post Beatles albums by Harrison, Lennon & to a lesser extent (personal taste-wise) McCartney
 

luka

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I thought version was onto something when he said "there's something queasily, perversely pre-sexual in their music. Something sickly and putrid and anti life in those plaintive, simpering and nasally congested voices"
 

thirdform

pass the sick bucket
I thought version was onto something when he said "there's something queasily, perversely pre-sexual in their music. Something sickly and putrid and anti life in those plaintive, simpering and nasally congested voices"

something provincial tbh. unaware of the sins of the fetted metropolis.

Their music reminds me of a happy hardcore song called fun fair or something like that.

I believe this is the one.

 

Benny Bunter

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They were good at dumb bubblegum rock n roll early on, the phil spector sound of california girls, don't worry baby, and they were good at the highly arranged soaring orchestral stuff on pet sounds, but after that they lost it. The production didn't suit them and the songs were nowhere near as good. Wanky flute and sax solos, no thanks.
 

sus

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I thought version was onto something when he said "there's something queasily, perversely pre-sexual in their music. Something sickly and putrid and anti life in those plaintive, simpering and nasally congested voices"
Brian Wilson was an Eternal Childe that's part of the beauty. It's Malibu Romanticism.
 
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