Benny Bunter
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So who the hell are Tapedeck, and why is their remixing of Wiley such a crime?
Brilliant like a turd perhaps.
An interview with Durrty Goodz. He has a very bizarre attitude towards what sort of music he makes.
Interviewer: "[Axiom EP] is 100% grime as some would call it. Was that a specific sort of decision? Was that on purpose?"
Goodz: "No no no no, I would say it's not even say it's 100% grime; I'd say it's 100% hip hop still... it's 100% hip hop because I brought dubstep mans together, grime mans together, and hip hop mans together all on one CD, and the whole CD is about peace, love and unity innit. And that's what hip hop is - that's what real hip hop is anyway."
The point he makes is that he just spits on whatever beat is hot on the streets, regardless of what speed or genre it is. I can appreciate that if he is actually able to keep the quality high (unlike Dizzee), but Axiom EP couldn't be considered hip hop in any way at all - not in its content, not in its delivery, not in the music... he's got a song on it commenting on garage's history on it for fuck's sake.
I think the problem with grime is that people are too reductive ("that's not grime, that's bait hip hop"), and it scares off the more open-minded artists or ones with different influences into saying they aren't grime for that reason. Yes, Wiley is grime, but when Wiley goes over electro on Wearing My Rolex, that is grime too. Dizzee is grime, but when he makes a shitty pop and hip-hop influenced album, although it is awful, it is still grime to me. Likewise, it's not hard to say that when Goodz comes back strong with a CD full of grime and dubstep production... it's probably because he's a grime MC.
I mean, he is going on about how he chose all these underground grime and dubstep producers because he "felt like these were the guys that were bringing it... bringing the basslines and the melodies that could lift up a whole club."
"That's what real hip hop is anyway."
Bollocks. You are making real grime music, Goodz.
So who the hell are Tapedeck, and why is their remixing of Wiley such a crime?
anyone go to The End last night?
We only stayed til three because apparently everyone I associate with are fassies, but Boy Better Know's set was amazing. Maximum did the Mac 10 thing of hardly ever playing one tune for more than a minute, and Skepta & Wiley went back to back for half an hour. Benga was sick too. Youngsta was boring.
Skepta, Wiley, Jammer, Friscoe and Little Dee all showed for Maximum's set but it was just Skepta and Wiley MCing which I was glad about. It was Wiley and Dizzee-esque, they were doing each others bars and stuff. Beat selection was stupid too: Maximum busted out Eskimo, Pied Piper, Bow E3, Spaceship, I think Chest Boxing and Pulse X at one point but my memory of it isn't the best. Flowdan was billed as was the Circle but we were only there from 11.30 to 3 so I dunno if they showed.
Crowd was packed for BBK and surprisingly sparse on the dancefloor for Benga and Yunx. The bar where Chef was playing was more packed.
I reckon you could spend a Friday night knocking pints out the hands of randomly selected fat blokes and get bars better than Discarda's shouted at you.
which percy ingles is that? is it the one near london fields?
percy is the original. greggs is some northern outfit, from newcastle or something. you can't trust them. greggs is not civilized. you can't sit down in greggs and have a cup of tea. the percy ingles in stratford used to be amzing. when you could still smoke fags with your cup of tea. i'm pretty sure they started in stratford. i once saw d.e.e coming out of the greggs in forest gate. he has a sausage roll or something. i should of told him to go percys next time. but i didn't though.
dirty canvas should put audio of their nights on the web...
[Tinchy Stryder's Cloud 9 EP] is so much better than his shit "album" of last year.
I reckon you could spend a Friday night knocking pints out the hands of randomly selected fat blokes and get bars better than Discarda's shouted at you.
Discarda said:I'LL BANG YOUR FATHER OOUUUUUUUUUUUTTT