william_kent

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I’ve just been given a copy of this. https://fitzcarraldoeditions.com/books/the-ways-of-paradise/
I am a sucker for these kind of things - loose collections of ideas, sources, arcane knowledge etc like notes towards something.

@sus judging by the publisher's blurb, seems like this might be up your street

[...] this so-called found manuscript, the work of a now-deceased, obscure researcher who spent three decades in the National Library of Sweden working on his magnum opus. Upon his death, no trace of this work remains aside from this set of notes and fragments which form an enigmatic set of texts on the connections between art, literature, spirituality and the occult through history, with a particular focus on spirals and labyrinths.
 
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william_kent

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It's a shame it's fake and they don't even really bother pretending it's more of a wink

that doesn't detract from it though - it's full of passages like this:

23. A paradoxical, cyclic motion it may seem: particulars are understood via the whole and the whole via particulars. As such, the very process of understanding, the hermeneutic work, in Heidegger, Gadamer, etc. can be described as walking in a circle, though not one that is closed, ‘circulus vitiosus’, but instead one that is freely circulating and ever-widening, moving towards broader horizons. Therefore, the expression ‘hermeneutic spiral’ is often preferred to ‘hermeneutic circle’. Adrian Marino argues that the hermeneutic process is bound up with circular development. It runs through various circles, which constantly convey a series of alternate connections, retreats, old paths with new credibility, a demonstration ‘in spiral fashion’. L’herméneutique de Mircea Eliade, 1981; see also Gerard Radnitzky, Contemporary Schools of Metascience, 1968.
 

sufi

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that Neal Stephenson one is the second volume of the Baroque Cycle - you'll probably have to read "Quicksilver" first for it to make any sense...
I randomly bought snow crash in the 2nd hand bookshop last week
got thru almost 100 pages but it is absolutely excruciating

Baroque cycle and cryptonomicon are great, but snow crash, the C1992 book that basically launched the internet/metaverse has sadly not aged very well :(
 

ver$hy ver$h

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I randomly bought snow crash in the 2nd hand bookshop last week
got thru almost 100 pages but it is absolutely excruciating

Baroque cycle and cryptonomicon are great, but snow crash, the C1992 book that basically launched the internet/metaverse has sadly not aged very well :(

The main guy being called 'Hiro Protagonist' always put me off ever even bothering.
 

ver$hy ver$h

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william_kent

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Neal Stephenson, the celebrated author of sci-fi classics Snow Crash and Cryptonomicon, began working on a sword-fighting video game called Clang in 2012 and raised $526,000 on Kickstarter. “I’m dissatisfied with how sword-fighting is portrayed in existing video games,” he said at the time. “These could be so much more fun than they are. Time for a revolution.” One year ago, Stephenson announced that they had burned through the half-million, asked people to be “patient,” and said they were looking for extra money. And on Sept. 18, a year after that last update, Stephenson announced to his backers that the project was dead in the water.

It turns out that after two years of work, the game that Stephenson and his team, Subutai, delivered was boring.
 

william_kent

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So it's the one before that?

yes.. it's volume one of the baroque cycle, the one you bought the other week is volume two, and the one you haven't got yet is volume three ( The System of the World ) - but the structure is even more convoluted than that, and it's too confusing to go into that, so my question to you would be - is this version of Qucksilver about 900 pages long?

also, The Baroque Cycle is a prequel to Cryptonomicon, but you don't really have to read that first...
 
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