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Hopefully ET will be on it, I love that tune..
Hopefully ET will be on it, I love that tune..
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mos dan
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i think it's 'give it back' - my favourite as well, absolutely love the sugary ukg inflection. apparently d1 played it out at fwd the other week but like a spaz i missed that set.
nomos
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i'd love to see 'give it back' get a release. i wasn't sold at first but it's grown on me in a huge way. though i think i especially like it with the skream talkover from that stella sesh clip that was floating around. it was just a bit like barry white through a pitch shifter.
bassnation
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re. the coki thing - "clumpy" i think kode9 calls it (although he may be referring to the more noisy / almost verging into idm end of dubstep). its just utterly and unintentionally devoid of funk and if that wobbler bassline never moved you in the first place, its just a bore as it relies on it to propel the track forward. listened to too much shit jungle and for me, its the same. why not take the good bits and dump all that macho sci fi shit? if you want scary music personally i find subbass really does the trick. whats the bleakest, darkest and most devastating track, a standard coki wobbler or something like horror show with its endless undulating waves of dread?
the kind of dubstep that really does it for me (or at least it did when i first heard it) is the tunes loefah used to put out with scratchy reggae samples and odd but incredibly detailed darkcore ambience. maybe youngsta a year, or two years back. seems to me there were quite a few possible routes of development which seem to have been neglected lately. also been listening to some old horsepower stuff , inspired by the recent roots of dubstep compilation and thats fucking great (but totally different to its contemporary counterpart) too.
of course this just might be me being an old fart and wanting something i can relate to (anything remotely influenced by rave / darkcore basically). its a direct descendent of the music that is still the passion of my life and even if i can't really buy into some of the sounds and conceits, i will always have a soft spot for it.
however, i do like the fact that the scene is still quite obviously mutating, even if i don't always like its directions. its still the most interesting thing that is happening in dance music right now and for me, thats always the thing to follow. i just hope they don't settle on a template which the neophytes probably think is dubstep. (not knocking them here, everyone has to start somewhere and no-one spills out the womb being cool). some people have talked of a split in the scene, which is probably premature, but there will probably be a point where the diversity ends in polarisation.
sorry this is a well worn theme with me. don't get the impression i'm hating it because i'm not. just find it easier to talk about music i don't like rather than the music i do, for some weird reason.
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the undisputed truth
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I like a good wobble but I prefer a rolling sine like what toasty does. Skinny is the mean trak.
Surely wobble and halfstep is now what the amen and reese was to jungle. I'm surprised as yet that no one has 'sub-genrefied' dubstep into the equivalent of drum'n'bass/techstep/neurofunk/liquid/jump up...etc etc
bassnation
the abyss
yeah, thats what i mean - surely its coming. theres a tremendous amount of variation between artists (but also loads of copycats). usually in dance music this precedes a split, or at least some well defined pigeon holes for the artists to labour under. maybe its the fact that all the dance music magazines in the uk have gone out of business cos usually they'd be behind it.
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ramadanman
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re bassnation
i think a lot of coki's tracks are full of funk and good rhythm
drums are his speciality.
haven't heard much of his recent output, but really like a newish track of his, i think it's called "red (something or other)". n type played it a lot.
production wise, haven't made a wobble type track for nearly 2 months now.....definitely see this divide coming between crazy lfo bass leads and mellow deep stuff.
i think a lot of coki's tracks are full of funk and good rhythm
drums are his speciality.
haven't heard much of his recent output, but really like a newish track of his, i think it's called "red (something or other)". n type played it a lot.
production wise, haven't made a wobble type track for nearly 2 months now.....definitely see this divide coming between crazy lfo bass leads and mellow deep stuff.
the undisputed truth
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so that's how the names came about ? I always wondered if there was some back room boffins sitting round all day coming up with cool names for electronica sub genres...
...maybe we should make a few but please nothing with step or core in it
I'm thinking 'carport' or 'tiltslab' and maybe 'flotsam'n'jetsam'...:slanted:
...maybe we should make a few but please nothing with step or core in it
I'm thinking 'carport' or 'tiltslab' and maybe 'flotsam'n'jetsam'...:slanted:
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I doubt Kode 9 would've said anything derogatory.. he plays loads of coki tracks.
Whilst I'm not a massive fan of the coki wobblers either, can you not hear the funk in his incredible drums? Mood Dub and Haunted, just to name a couple, have an absolutely incredible groove. Not sure what the talk about sub was about either.. coki tracks hit hard. Just because they wobble the house down doesn't mean they don't have any sub pressure.
Ramadanman - that tune n-type's been caining was called Red Eyes on the tracklist for mala's show on kiss, but those things can be dodgy. I love the background sounds in that one too, absolutely sick. Definitely my favourite of coki's recent tracks.
the undisputed truth
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haha...
Screwcore - Disgusting name. Taking the halfstep concept to it's disorienting extreme with DJ Screw-ish sludge underpinning breakbeat slash.
^^^that sounds like the Burial instrumental mashup 'dead n buried' I pitched down on myspacepage
I'm liking the sound of 'tiltslab' for what we do
From wiki >>>Tilt slab construction is a dominant method of construction throughout North America, Australia and parts of the Pacific Rim. It is also increasing in popularity in many other worldwide regions as the resulting buildings are strong and durable, energy efficient and increasingly attractive. They have developed into a building solution that creates a strong and inspiring image for many owners including churches, athletic facilities, civic buildings and detention centers.
...'carport' would be garage for the lower classes
since i said that ive gone away and tried again with a lot of coki tunes, but i still just dont enjoy the lead synths... there are other elements of his tunes which are incredible... the drums are sick, a lot of his melodic work is really really nice, but for me its a constant uphill struggle, trying to ignore the lead. i dont know why, but they just grate on me. but clearly its a purely subjective thing. and i still absolutely love all the tracks i named above (plus Thieves In The Night)
generally, there are some 'wobbler' tracks that i do rate, but relatively rarely
it'll be a sad day for me when i hear established dubstep sub-genres entering into general parlance, it just means more boundaries and boxes for producers. i know its inevitable and in some ways desirable, but i dont like it
the most obvious sub-genre name is "wobble-step", but i dont think anyone with any dignity will want to have their music called that
generally, there are some 'wobbler' tracks that i do rate, but relatively rarely
it'll be a sad day for me when i hear established dubstep sub-genres entering into general parlance, it just means more boundaries and boxes for producers. i know its inevitable and in some ways desirable, but i dont like it
the most obvious sub-genre name is "wobble-step", but i dont think anyone with any dignity will want to have their music called that
bassnation
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oh don't get me wrong - not dissing all of his productions, just the wobbler stuff. personally, mood dub is one of my favourite dubstep tunes. and i totally accept his drum programming is wicked - but as soon as that tired old cliche of a bass noise comes in, i'm not feeling it.
ramadanman
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i don't so much have a problem with the coki WOBWOBWOB tracks
more just the poor imitations which are becoming increasingly prevalent.
more just the poor imitations which are becoming increasingly prevalent.
bassnation
the abyss
i think we should settle on wobble-step as a sub genre. it sounds like the kind of thing you might find yourself engaged in after drinking ten pints of strong lager.
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nomos
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that's fantastic martin. i'll give it a read this evening. i have the utmost respect for sam and his music. he deserves a bright future in music, whatever sort he decides to make.
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It is possible to make a deep track with a wobbly bassline. Just because I tune has LFO'd bass doesn't automatically mean it's a party banger with no substance.
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