Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
Neither does 'quantum' hocus-pocus.
If the results could have been proven, the prize would have been claimed.
Cold rationalism just killed Star Wars for me
If the results could have been proven, the prize would have been claimed.
Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
mixed_biscuits
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If Randi had been a fair dealer then he would have handed over the money on receipt of the first paper to have been published after peer review with no subsequent academic debunking. But he was as fair a dealer as one would expect one to be with 1 million dollars on the line!
Murphy
cat malogen
ssshhh, Jesus is speaking and my hearing isn’t the best
”Murphy, you need to rid Dissensus of MaleLesbian. Sure, MB thinks I give a fuck when I divert all his prayers to answerphone but you have to nuke this other ridiculous fuck first”
- “Excuse my ignorance Jesus, you want me to nuke MaleLesbian?”
”Yes. Right in his face”
- “But you can’t nuke anyone ‘in the face’, such munitions aren’t accurate within the scale of a human face”
”That’s not what MB informed me ….”
- “MB is a grass Jesus and will say anything to ingratiate himself and curry favour with you. Do you know what he thinks about eugenics?”
”Eugenics? Quiet, heathen. I died on a fuckin cross to absolve you of sin for all eternity without one single ride. Took a few days dying too, yunno, to die, expire, finito. One specific Lazio cunt even rammed a spear in my ribs. Incels? Lightweights. I was the original nofap”
- “But as God’s only son, you died and rose to heaven”
”Biblical cgi, lad”
- “Biblical cgi? But it’s a book, not electronically adjustable CAD software”
”You’re sounding like a Protestant now. Don’t you want to be a ‘Jedi 4 Christ’, like MB? A Jedi was just George Lucas stoned confusing Jesuit and Buddhist thought btw, someone should dox the cunt, maybe someone like yooouuu….”
- “Sounds a bit psycho J-Man. Going thr#ugh a tun#el, yo#’re bre#k#ng up an# I #an#t he## #ou ########”
”Murphy, you need to rid Dissensus of MaleLesbian. Sure, MB thinks I give a fuck when I divert all his prayers to answerphone but you have to nuke this other ridiculous fuck first”
- “Excuse my ignorance Jesus, you want me to nuke MaleLesbian?”
”Yes. Right in his face”
- “But you can’t nuke anyone ‘in the face’, such munitions aren’t accurate within the scale of a human face”
”That’s not what MB informed me ….”
- “MB is a grass Jesus and will say anything to ingratiate himself and curry favour with you. Do you know what he thinks about eugenics?”
”Eugenics? Quiet, heathen. I died on a fuckin cross to absolve you of sin for all eternity without one single ride. Took a few days dying too, yunno, to die, expire, finito. One specific Lazio cunt even rammed a spear in my ribs. Incels? Lightweights. I was the original nofap”
- “But as God’s only son, you died and rose to heaven”
”Biblical cgi, lad”
- “Biblical cgi? But it’s a book, not electronically adjustable CAD software”
”You’re sounding like a Protestant now. Don’t you want to be a ‘Jedi 4 Christ’, like MB? A Jedi was just George Lucas stoned confusing Jesuit and Buddhist thought btw, someone should dox the cunt, maybe someone like yooouuu….”
- “Sounds a bit psycho J-Man. Going thr#ugh a tun#el, yo#’re bre#k#ng up an# I #an#t he## #ou ########”
other_life
bioconfused
Cold rationalism has made me realise that Star Wars is fascist, Harry Potter is fascist neo-feudal dreck, selfie-obsession is fascist, British soap-operas are fascist, sci-fi is generally fascist, ironic detachment is fascist, porn is fascist. Masscult under imperialism is inherently fascistic. Sorry to spoil your 'fun'.
william kent
Well-known member
There was a German scientist at Boeing in the 60s who was researching psychokinesis and precognition.
en.wikipedia.org
pynchonnotes.openlibhums.org
Helmut Schmidt (parapsychologist) - Wikipedia
Hard Science and the Paranormal in <it>Gravity's Rainbow</i>: Precognition Machines, Cockroaches, and Not <italic>That</italic> Helmut Schmidt
In the Zeitgeist of GR, the rational, quantifiable world of physics, engineering and rocket science coexists with the mysterious, occult demimonde of "The White Visitation," a bizarre locale characterized, from Brigadier Pudding's point of view, as With its collection of eccentric Pavlovians...
pynchonnotes.openlibhums.org
Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
Ahh, so it's all a conspiracy to suppress the truth! I thought as much.
Do you have a link to this peer-reviewed paper that proves the existence of ESP beyond all scientific doubt, by any chance?
Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
Don't forget Kipling, Gandhi, Chiang Kai-Shek, homosexuality, Priestley's broadcasts, Youth Hostels, astrology, women and dogs.
mixed_biscuits
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I think you would have the same criterion for 'beyond all scientific doubt' (whatever that means) as Randi would i.e. nothing would meet your undefined standard.
There are hundreds of studies and I've posted one...why not try to deboonk it?
other_life
bioconfused
That's right.
Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
OK, I've taken the bait and looked at this paper. And they have a grand total of... one data point. Lol. If you could show that random numbers generated by some quantum kit did something statistically unlikely whenever any globally newsworthy event occurred, then they might have something interesting. As it is, it's no more impressive than the correlation between the distance between Neptune and Mercury and petroleum consumption in Azerbaijan.
mixed_biscuits
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Yes, one data point there because it's about one data point but the probability of the RNG behaving like that is vanishingly small. Other event analyses of that type have been done with results pointing in the same direction but 9-11 is the transfixing, consciousness-corralling world event of the past three decades whereas no-one gives a shit about the data you've got in your graph there.
What you've done in the graph is find a correlation between the 1XXXth and 1XXXXth most interesting data sets whereas what you should have done is correlate by chance the 1st and 2nd most interesting sets, sets which also have no apparent prior reason to be correlated.
mixed_biscuits
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@Mr. Tea https://noosphere.princeton.edu/ for more events; presumably you've heard of Princeton University...
A good debunk might be to find an event that didn't create RNG disturbance despite being of the same order as other events that did...good luck!
A good debunk might be to find an event that didn't create RNG disturbance despite being of the same order as other events that did...good luck!
Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
I mean, yeah, this is pretty much the point. But people setting out to prove their hypothesis that quantum something-or-other correlates with events that humans consider important are obviously not going to look at events that don't show any correlation.
In fact, coming up with a hypothesis and setting out to 'prove' it is not even how you do science. You're supposed to set up a test that can falsify the hypothesis. So this isn't even science at all, or is at best what Feynman called 'cargo-cult science.' If you'd studied it yourself you would understand this, but - like these 'researchers' - you instead cherry-pick whatever you think backs up your prejudices.
I taught him everything
william kent
Well-known member
Do you think this reflects well on you?
Of course!