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Woebot on funky house
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I was wrong about lots of other things at 16 too
I'm not talking about breakdancing at a school disco.
Do you suffer from crippling back pain or something?
Anyway, thanks for your words of wisdom. I'll give them some thought when Benga is in town next month and will try to restrain myself ...
... from laughing at you.
Do you suffer from crippling back pain or something?
Anyway, thanks for your words of wisdom. I'll give them some thought when Benga is in town next month and will try to restrain myself ...
... from laughing at you.[/QUOTE]
Get down to a Northern Soul club if you want to see some serious 'old geezer dancing'.Some of those guys have been dancing since the mod era and show no sign of giving out.More {soul} power to em!
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Anyway, thanks for your words of wisdom. I'll give them some thought when Benga is in town next month and will try to restrain myself ...
... from laughing at you.[/QUOTE]
Get down to a Northern Soul club if you want to see some serious 'old geezer dancing'.Some of those guys have been dancing since the mod era and show no sign of giving out.More {soul} power to em!
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on ghetto tech as a garage subgenre, there was a bit of a fledgeling 'UK Bass scene' which seemed a middle ground between electro and 2step. there were some ok records by a guy whose name escapes me (he played sequence with ed dmx a while back, any takers?)
and who played a back to back set with DJ assault on mary anne hobbs one night.
Apologies for vagueness, anybody able to shine any light on this?
and who played a back to back set with DJ assault on mary anne hobbs one night.
Apologies for vagueness, anybody able to shine any light on this?
Nah...part of my regular raving crew when i was 16 was a guy who was window cleaner is his mid 30's, and he often got fly girls.
so maybe the problem is with you not anyone else.
yeah ghetto tech and garage did kinda move hand in hand a bit with breaks as well, i can't remember the djs name but there are a few labels that touched on a kinda uk ghetto tech electro style. Andrea Parker's touchin bass and ed's breakin label among em.
Noah Baby Food
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Are you talking about Cutlass Supreme? He's alright. The "UK Bass" thing was more like straight US ghetto house/electro with a bit of jungle influence. Not much in common with garage, apart from maybe a bit when 138 Trek and tunes like that were out.
That's another thing, people using the term 'ghetto house' for this 'urban house' shenanigans. Ghetto House is Dance Mania, Deeon, Funk, Waxmaster, all those guys! This music prolly ain't too well known with a lot of garage/house heads, but I always thought it should be. The audience for this stuff in the US is pretty similar to the UK audience for 'urban' house (or whatever you wanna call it), but the music has been traditionally popular with technoheads over here...coz Dave Clarke and Surgeon always played it, not E-Z or Dreem Team or whoever...
MATT MAson
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Deekline has remained committed to his particular brand of UK breaks since he was 15 years old - he had this vision of this whole sound back when we were listening to jungle in 93. I have a lot of respect for him for sticking to what he believes in like that, especially through all the madness of I Don't Smoke, and making his vision happen. His MyBreaks night is worth checking out if you like that sort of thing.
Also RE: old people at raves - This is one area where funky house clearly trounces dubstep. Go to any after hours Sunday morning funky house do in London and you'll see more ageing Ibiza mums and 40 year old footy hooligans in blazers partying like its 1989 than you can shake a bottle of fake tan at.
Funky house is actually several scenes now - I think this weird Sunday one which is reminiscent of the early garage scene (which was also a scene, not a sound when it started) is still my favourite.
Also RE: old people at raves - This is one area where funky house clearly trounces dubstep. Go to any after hours Sunday morning funky house do in London and you'll see more ageing Ibiza mums and 40 year old footy hooligans in blazers partying like its 1989 than you can shake a bottle of fake tan at.
Funky house is actually several scenes now - I think this weird Sunday one which is reminiscent of the early garage scene (which was also a scene, not a sound when it started) is still my favourite.
i think everyone's missing out on the point that house music's popularity in the UK, specifically london, began with what we are euphemistically calling an "urban" crowd (read inner city, read working class and also read significant numbers of black people).
the fact that it surefootedly grew into the default club music for everyone, then got fetishised, canonised and reinterpreted to the point that it became a non-urban and predominantly white culture (the muzik magazine effect), folded into which were all sorts of weird ideas of tastefulness, knowlege, exclusivity etc is interesting here.
house music in the uk has been historicised by a very select group of people, as if it all began with ibiza, shoom and what have you. it didn't. it was being heard elsewhere before then. it's just that this is the story most frequently told.
as such, funky house, to me, as it's so difficult to pin down as a single sound, and draws from lots of different strands of existing house music, is pretty cool and worthy of attention because it's possible to see it as a reclamation of house music by a new generation of listeners not so very different from its original core audience (minus the gay demographic, from what i can gather).
i'd like to check out more of the nights, because that's where i think it will make most sense, not on the radio, on record or anywhere else.
the fact that it surefootedly grew into the default club music for everyone, then got fetishised, canonised and reinterpreted to the point that it became a non-urban and predominantly white culture (the muzik magazine effect), folded into which were all sorts of weird ideas of tastefulness, knowlege, exclusivity etc is interesting here.
house music in the uk has been historicised by a very select group of people, as if it all began with ibiza, shoom and what have you. it didn't. it was being heard elsewhere before then. it's just that this is the story most frequently told.
as such, funky house, to me, as it's so difficult to pin down as a single sound, and draws from lots of different strands of existing house music, is pretty cool and worthy of attention because it's possible to see it as a reclamation of house music by a new generation of listeners not so very different from its original core audience (minus the gay demographic, from what i can gather).
i'd like to check out more of the nights, because that's where i think it will make most sense, not on the radio, on record or anywhere else.
Noah Baby Food
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I've read all this and I have to laugh really. I'm going to make myself unpopular here, but here goes (I always read this forum but rarely post anymore anyway, too much intellectual one-upmanship to be dealing with sometimes). There is SO MUCH navel gazing and theorising going on it's crazy, and so much overimportance placed on the opinions of 'bloggers'. What are we saying here about "funky house"? A scene where DJs play different styles of house-type records to an 'urban crowd'. I think there is a word for this, I think it's called "raving". When I started going out to raves in 1990 when I was 16 (yep, another 'old cunt'), before all the genres got defined and the 'cultural commentators' started earning a living out of divide-and-rule and picking the music to shreds, DJs played all different sorts of dance music, breaky stuff, acid stuff, fast hip-hop, garage, Italo, whatever. And the crowd didn't encompass many chin-strokers or public schoolboys.
Thinking about it, I probably agree with Stelfox's last post there. Most people don't read music blogs or fetishise Simon Reynolds or whatever, and don't know or care about a genre, they go raving at the weekend, enjoy the music and don't stress about what exactly it is they've been listening to. The whole rave thing survived the late 80s and most of the 90s without being debated to death on the internet. My younger bro and his mates for example - they're mid-20s and will go out to a techno night, an electro night, a jungle night, whatever. They'll get off it on drugs and dance. Or they might stay in and listen to the bloody Arctic Monkeys or Neil Young or Johnny Cash or whatever. Let's not theorise it to death, "funky house" is just RAVING. Everything hasn't always got to mean something. You suck the sexiness and excitement out of life with such an approach. Go outside and have a breath of fresh air!
Thinking about it, I probably agree with Stelfox's last post there. Most people don't read music blogs or fetishise Simon Reynolds or whatever, and don't know or care about a genre, they go raving at the weekend, enjoy the music and don't stress about what exactly it is they've been listening to. The whole rave thing survived the late 80s and most of the 90s without being debated to death on the internet. My younger bro and his mates for example - they're mid-20s and will go out to a techno night, an electro night, a jungle night, whatever. They'll get off it on drugs and dance. Or they might stay in and listen to the bloody Arctic Monkeys or Neil Young or Johnny Cash or whatever. Let's not theorise it to death, "funky house" is just RAVING. Everything hasn't always got to mean something. You suck the sexiness and excitement out of life with such an approach. Go outside and have a breath of fresh air!
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Definitely - i love minimal house with a funky edge. I think a lot of dancemania, Relief records,and Underground Construction stuff has that approach .
Thanks for the tip Nick on teh cabinet record comps.
I am gonna be on the look out for this stuff.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA. This made my day.
When you were ahem 'raving' were you so mashed up on 'disco biscuits' that you had no
understanding of what it was that you were listening to? Did you not get so exited by what you heard that you had to find out what it was called and who made it.Did you not want to buy it and discuss it with your friends to find out if there were more pieces of music that contained the same magical elements?In truth people have been obsessively dicussing the meaning of various music scenes way back before the 'golden age of rave'.Not just chin strokers and public schoolboys but a huge number of blue collar workers,living for the weekend and cutting up the dancefloor.Not only doing it to death,but also dicussing it to death!
By the way as you have made 125 posts on this forum are you a public schoolboy,a chin stroker or both?