new amy winehouse, i can't get with, as she looks like a crackhead... old amy, however, looks like R. Crumb's Devil Girl and i can get behind that...
lilly allen with the specials at glastonbury
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new amy winehouse, i can't get with, as she looks like a crackhead... old amy, however, looks like R. Crumb's Devil Girl and i can get behind that...
amy winehouse is a dan, she was on never mind the buzzcocks last night and she came off as SUCH a joker. abstract humour, sharp, playful and also completely unafraid to speak her mind. there was (as far as i could see) no pretense or self-consciousness. they were all rinsing this old guy on that line-up thing and she told them to shut up (in no uncertain or jovial terms) and gave the guy a hug! heavy
so yeh, having seen that i rate that shes very attractive. her hair is absolutely amazing too
so yeh, having seen that i rate that shes very attractive. her hair is absolutely amazing too
According to the Collins English Dictionary, to 'gild the lily' means 'to praise someone inordinately'
The sexism/misogyny around here beggars belief. Is it a lads-together routine that doesn't really impinge on your real life, or do people really think like this? It's hard to believe that people can be so easily manipulated by the most nauseating lowest common denominator magazine culture into making these ludicrous judgements and comparisons. Do you also eat at MacDonalds, buy Robbie Williams and Coldplay CDs at Tesco's and do whatever else advertising and the media tell you to do, or is this restricted to gender?
swears
preppy-kei
Have you ever heard women talk about men's bodies when they think we're not listening?
Or even other women's looks. Way harsher than "Lily is fit/no she's not."
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john eden
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Dunno if misogyny is better or worse than cultural elitism, though?
Logan Sama
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Do you have to re-adjust the positioning of the stick up your arse every morning when you wake up, or is it just weekly?
Bitch looks like Mike Skinner in a wig. I don't need Heat magazine to tell me that. Although I probably wouldn't be as cutting if she wasn't fake as arseholes though.
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hahaha, this is totally one of my pet peeves. because obviously to be a 'real' woman you have to be ugly.
I have many pretty female friends who, I can assure you, are all real women. I hope they're real anyway, otherwise I've been quite seriously misled for many years.
DannyL said:
Well, I think the reason most people are only commenting on her looks is because her appearance is far more interesting than her music. If she was a massively gifted musician, I doubt this thread would be here.
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Cultural elitism? Come on, seriously - do you buy your music off the shelf in Tescos and go out and buy whatever mainstream advertising flashes at you on the telly? Isn't this Dissensus?
I thought that folk around here were a bit more intelligent and discerning than this. They are about music - why not about sex/gender?And yes, I know women judge men's physical appearance too. But there's an ugly tone of misogyny to all this "question the sexuality of anyone who fancied her/typical ugly British chick/this photo is unfair 'cos she's ungilded/bitch looks like Skinner".
It probably comes across as uptight/pc, but it genuinely upsets me, the same way racism does (though they're not the same thing).
sodiumnightlife
Sweet Virginia
shit doesn't have to be serious all the time...the discussion was fairly light hearted. No one is advocating sexism, and to find it implicated in the above discussion is a tad over sensitive in my view.
- you're really not getting the point: it's nothing to do with real=not attractive, it's that a woman is a real person, whether or not she happens to fall inside or out of someone's standards of attractiveness. The implication of the "ungilded" Lily pic is supposed to be that we are all supposed to uniformly find her unattractive, and that this somehow matters.hahaha, this is totally one of my pet peeves. because obviously to be a 'real' woman you have to be ugly.
I have many pretty female friends who I can assure you, are all real women. I hope they're real anyway, otherwise I've been quite seriously misled for many years.
- there's definitely something to thisUFO said:
john eden
male pale and stale
Cultural elitism? Come on, seriously - do you buy your music off the shelf in Tescos and go out and buy whatever mainstream advertising flashes at you on the telly? Isn't this Dissensus?
And yes, I know women judge men's physical appearance too. But there's an ugly tone of misogyny to all this "question the sexuality of anyone who fancied her/typical ugly British chick/this photo is unfair 'cos she's ungilded/bitch looks like Skinner".
It probably comes across as uptight/pc, but it genuinely upsets me, the same way racism does (though they're not the same thing).
My musical tastes are influenced by things like radio and advertising. The fact that the advertising is usually not on primetime tv is an irrelevance I think.
It is a disgusting myth that because people buy music they have seen plugged in The Wire they are more "individual" and therefore better people than those who buy music they see on the shelves in tesco.
Yeah, but Logan's just stewing because he looks like her.
whats wrong with discussing the attractiveness of a female artist anyway? if lilly didnt want her appearance commented on then she shouldnt issue any photos and should stop appearing on the cover of all her cds. its not like people arent discussing her musical merits (or lack of) too.
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I agree, but that's not what was implied by Martin. What I read from his post was that somehow, a picture of Lily looking rough is more real than a picture of her looking good.
It's like another facet of the cultural elitism thing also being discussed - you have shit taste in music because you don't buy obscure stuff; you're being manipulated by the media blah blah... I'm cool because I like weird things no one else likes. You have boring, conventional taste in women; I like uggos, because I'm interesting...
sexist bastard!