don_quixote

Trent End
yeah it was a penalty, or at least i don't think you could award anything else. and they bloody deserved it considering some of the free kicks and yellow cards that went against them, arsenal that is.
 

crackerjack

Well-known member
This Norwich game is mental. They're murdering Tranmere, but they're three down. If their games are always this entertaining, how do I get to be a fan Hucks?
 

don_quixote

Trent End
Morecambe 4 – 3 Crewe Alexandra

1. Jevons 53,
2. Curtis 87,
3. Artell 90,
4. Mullin 90



1. Grant 17,
2. Miller 30,
3. Donaldson 63


holy shit that match looks like a classic!!

morecambe had a man sent off as well. football eh

EDIT: AND CREWE MISSED A PENALTY

god i want a fucking video of this match
 
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don_quixote

Trent End
was listening to that on the radio, match hadn't started when we first got back in the car, it was 4-0 before we got out of bristol.
 

paolo

Mechanical phantoms
I thought Rooney being out yesterday would fire Man U up, that Ferguson would use it to to give them a us against the world backs to the wall let's do it for Wayne siege mentality ting. Instead they seemed like a team missing their best player

Drogba's goal yesterday ahahahaha :D:D:D

Macheda's goal should have been disallowed as well so it balances out for me. Same with the penalty appeals
 

baboon2004

Darned cockwombles.
was listening to that on the radio, match hadn't started when we first got back in the car, it was 4-0 before we got out of bristol.

did you watch the highlights there? The shots after the third goal are sort of genuinely shocking....shows the depth of feeling football (and its links to community pride, self-identity etc) engenders to a greater degree than I've seen for a long time.
 

crackerjack

Well-known member
did you watch the highlights there? The shots after the third goal are sort of genuinely shocking....shows the depth of feeling football (and its links to community pride, self-identity etc) engenders to a greater degree than I've seen for a long time.

it's just all gone so wrong since Laws came in - i can understand (even admire) caution in the newly promoted, but picking a recently sacked manager on a points-per-pounds spent basis is an insult to the fans. that team yesterday, they weren't even trying most of the time
 

baboon2004

Darned cockwombles.
Burnley were really sound at the beginning of the season, at least at home, right?

Any predictions for this week's CL games? I reckon United will beat Bayern by two, same for Barca vs Arsenal. As to the others, the game in Moscow will be very interesting, though I can't see Inter failing to score with Eto'o in the team. As to the other, who knows? United-Lyon, Barca-Inter.
 

paolo

Mechanical phantoms
Messi gets a ten in today's Grauniad, only the second time I've seen a player awarded full marks in years (the other one was Robert Green :slanted:)
 

baboon2004

Darned cockwombles.
Dunno about individuals, but my only 10/10 team performance was the Zidane-led Real Madrid v Man United 1st half, 2003. Never ever seen football that good before or since.

I think Messi as 10/10 last night is stretching it - brilliant finishes, hard work etc, but there were so many other class performers there, that it's contestible whether he was even the best Barca player, with Xavi on the field.
 

crackerjack

Well-known member
Owen got 10 everywhere for the 5-1 in Munich. Messi was on a different planet last night, even allowing for Arse's ninth-choice defenders. Can't wait to see what he does in the WC.
 

baboon2004

Darned cockwombles.
i'm not the only one to think so. barca put in a brilliant team performance last night. comparisons to maradona (not that anyone here is making them, but many others are) are incredibly premature.

also, everyone (nearly) always puts strikers' performances above those of other players - the thought that someone could score 4 goals and still nto be the best player on the field is somehow a priori impossible.
 
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crackerjack

Well-known member
i'm not the only one to think so. barca put in a brilliant team performance last night. comparisons to maradona (not that anyone here is making them, but many others are) are incredibly premature.

also, everyone (nearly) always puts strikers' performances above those of other players - the thought that someone could score 4 goals and still nto be the best player on the field is somehow a priori impossible.

Of course, but these weren't just tap-ins he was scoring and his contribution wasn't limited to the goals. Obviously Xavi is a master at holding possession and distributing the ball (tho Arse got more of it last night than last week), but when Messi gets it the opposition shits themselves en masse. It's not cos they've been reading hyped-up newspaper headlines.
As for Maradona, he's younger and has accomplished less, but a great deal than DM had at his age.
 

baboon2004

Darned cockwombles.
Of course, but these weren't just tap-ins he was scoring and his contribution wasn't limited to the goals. Obviously Xavi is a master at holding possession and distributing the ball (tho Arse got more of it last night than last week), but when Messi gets it the opposition shits themselves en masse. It's not cos they've been reading hyped-up newspaper headlines.
As for Maradona, he's younger and has accomplished less, but a great deal than DM had at his age.

I agree that he probably was the best player; it just annoys me that a lot of the time people like Xavi don't even get considered for such laurels (and even more so for some of the other midfielders/defenders, who were superb), cos they're less sexy than someone scoring 4 goals or whatever.

True re relative ages, but I think the real test will be at the World Cup, where he has to drag up an average team (though they seem to have some very good players - Samuel and Milito at Inter spring instantly to mind - so they seem somewhat less average than their performances indicate, the 1-0 v Germany aside), and can't rely upon the sheer quality he has around him at Barcelona week in week out. It's unfair of me to assume before the event that he won't do it, but it will be one hell of a test.

Edit: I think Arsenal played incredibly well in the first half, a couple of defensive clearances apart. No disgrace at all in their performance, and Wenger's tactics of getting physical were spot on, and of course led tot he first goal (and there should've been a second possibly two minutes later, though I haven't seen the replay so can't be sure)
 
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