Aha, back to this thread.
In this course of commenting on the 'end of the ... Rove right' ,
I think we all have been appreciating your analysis and yes have often agreed aMinadaB.
Things have become a bit sweeping and absolute and you get some pushback.
Once when I mention that there are women out there who would have voted for Hillary because she was a woman.
I don't know how one can prove your point because again - there were, there still are, and some may hang on that until August or even Nov.
We don't agree with that but if one really wants to persist that there are none -
then one is simply wrong.
It was being talked about on all levels of society, in the media, in the comments boxes responding to articles and editorials in ever paper I had chance to read online or hard copy.
Thankfully that hardcore sentiment seems to be dying down, and hopefully time will er 'heal'.
I mean is some crowd, dozens, however many women (or men, for that matter) really going to vote Mccain because Hillary didn't win !
Similarly, to start a response denying 'there is dread' when the only real heat and buzz before Hillary speech yesterday was about how far she would go in endorsing and conceding.
There was all kinds of speculation about it and I WAS dreading she would fudge it ,
especially after her speech earlier in the week.
People didn't want this to go on again until a next speech.
So again , one may believe that it wasn't there, that's your perogative -but there was.
It WAS an open question.
I didn't hear a reply as to whether you had caught any of the speculation,
because it was all the bubble ... frothing into media lather.
To our relief - she did utter words to the effect that she was admitting Obama won and was going to support him.
She acted the part yesterday, as you point out - she HAD too.
After catching the replay I agree with what was heard by some in the media -
it was a few speeches in one - with one part being her 'getting behind' Obama.
Dunno how comfortable it will be to have her there, still one to watch
( grr meaning two to watch).
The sexism issue is complex, certainly there has been / still is a good deal of it out there.
Hillary's been a magnet - target in private and in the media.
She's also been deplorable, has played us and media as well as she got played.
It was a battle, you saw her in some of the debates.
It took a few iterations for her to light on 'fighter for the people' , plastic as money can buy.
We have a moment where concievably there could have been the first black candidate and the first woman candidate.
They could have gone forward side by side as Pres and Vp nom ,
now she's left to deal with aftermath, $30 million in the hole, hopefully taking care of her workers health care which I hear is an issue despite the oratory .
Still think she's looking for some kind of break, despite yesterday's ... words .
Looking forward to agreeing, disagreeing and in the RW, hoping that Obama makes it into office.
His choice of Vp looks to be crucial.
Thoughts on that ?