freelance journalism

ether

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both my girl and brother both do some freelance writing and have been on at me to give it a go, can anyone give any advice or recommended any books or sites, which demystify the trade. (uk)

any advice about pitching for articles, how much to charge per word, the differences between web and print based publications etc. would be much appreciated.

cheers.
 

ether

Well-known member
they, have. their experience is largely in visual arts, I'm just interested if anyone can share their own experiences.
 

crackerjack

Well-known member
here's my tip:

if you keep looking back at this thread again and again, expecting to see replies, only to find no one has bothered, and if that pisses you off/gets you down/instils feelings of self doubt, then freelance journalism is not for you
 

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Beast of Burden
This made me wonder what's happening to Ian Penman.

It all depends on what kind of freelance writing you want to do. Do you want to be a music journalist, ether? Current affairs? Regional specialist? Local paper sleuth? (Actually, the latter no longer exist.)
 

mos dan

fact music
both my girl and brother both do some freelance writing and have been on at me to give it a go, can anyone give any advice or recommended any books or sites, which demystify the trade. (uk)

any advice about pitching for articles, how much to charge per word, the differences between web and print based publications etc. would be much appreciated.

cheers.

there is so much to say about freelance journalism that when people say 'i'd quite like to write freelance. can you give me any advice?' i tend to roll my eyes a bit and demand specific questions: because we'll only end up wasting each other's time otherwise.

what do you want to write about? who would you most like to write it for?

more generally, i would say forget books and websites, they are the ultimate example of money for old rope. check the NUJ website, but that's it.
 

luka

Well-known member
my feeling is unless you have a real vocation, dont write. i really feel that strongly. theres too many people writing dross. including plenty of people who post here to be frank.
 

stelfox

Beast of Burden
agreed on all points above, especially the less pleasant ones. it's not an easy job. too many people do it and too many people do it badly. however, it can be really rewarding. first of all you will need to write things, then you'll need to keep writing things. do not expect to make any money for quite a long time and make an effort to get better and better as time goes on. this kind of maturing as a writer only comes from doing it a lot, learning by your mistakes and getting more comfortable. always be honest. ethically speaking, don't try to make the facts fit your worldview at the expense of accuracy and truth - this happens far too often and never makes for good reading. practically speaking, don't just throw pieces together if you can avoid it - regardless of how much you need the money. don't dabble, either. do it properly, either as, or with a view to it becoming, a real career. alternatively have other work to live on and write periodically about things that you know an awful lot about and really care about. do not bother with books, one-week courses advertised in newspapers, websites or anything like that. they will be a waste of time and, in the case of websites and courses, probably scams. it's not a complicated process anyway. you have an idea, you pitch it to the relevant editor of AN Other publication, they either like it or don't. you then either write it or don't. you don't need anyone to tell you about that. just do it. the more you try, the easier it gets.
 
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Beast of Burden
Tara Palmer Tomkinson used to write a really good column for the Sunday Times style section.
 

vimothy

yurp
do not bother with books, one-week courses advertised in newspapers, websites or anything like that.

Disregarding this for a moment: Anyone know any good books on writing journalism or just writing generally?
 

ether

Well-known member
agreed on all points above, especially the less pleasant ones. it's not an easy job. too many people do it and too many people do it badly. however, it can be really rewarding. first of all you will need to write things, then you'll need to keep writing things. do not expect to make any money for quite a long time and make an effort to get better and better as time goes on. this kind of maturing as a writer only comes from doing it a lot, learning by your mistakes and getting more comfortable. always be honest. ethically speaking, don't try to make the facts fit your worldview at the expense of accuracy and truth - this happens far too often and never makes for good reading. practically speaking, don't just throw pieces together if you can avoid it - regardless of how much you need the money. don't dabble, either. do it properly, either as, or with a view to it becoming, a real career. alternatively have other work to live on and write periodically about things that you know an awful lot about and really care about. do not bother with books, one-week courses advertised in newspapers, websites or anything like that. they will be a waste of time and, in the case of websites and courses, probably scams. it's not a complicated process anyway. you have an idea, you pitch it to the relevant editor of AN Other publication, they either like it or don't. you then either write it or don't. you don't need anyone to tell you about that. just do it. the more you try, the easier it gets.

cheers this is the sort of advice I was after.
 
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