bankruptcy of 'nuum as concept
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well, saying anything originated in newcastle is a bit of a stretch really, none of the music is produced there and few of the MCs come from there, and all the major events are/were held more the sunderland/boro/scotland way. it is a bit of a musical black hole really.
and there's no black music scene there purely because there's no black people.
and there's no black music scene there purely because there's no black people.
UFO over easy
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Transpontine
history is made at night
Tactical genius of Reynolds to throw in the EuroCore Nuum when people are tying themselves in knots about the post-hardcore 'Nuum - guy should be a chess player. See there never was only one 'Nuum. But where did the EuroCore Nuum start?
I think it all goes back to Italo-disco feeding into late 80s Euro-pop, via Hi-nrg (80s pre-house UK gay dance music), I remember dancing to this one in Majorca back in the day (Spagna - Call Me)
I think it all goes back to Italo-disco feeding into late 80s Euro-pop, via Hi-nrg (80s pre-house UK gay dance music), I remember dancing to this one in Majorca back in the day (Spagna - Call Me)
UFO over easy
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spyro and mak 10 are mixing up grime and pitched up funky, trying to outdo each other with some ridiculous 8 bar mixing on rinse right now
slackk
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this set right now ..... boy.
i'm recording and i've never been happier to say it.
Slothrop
Tight but Polite
I'm pretty sure he's always been happy in principle to talk about multiple continua - ISTR a blog post about the "mod / soul boy continuum" - it's just that the hardcore one happened to cover most of the dance music he was interested in. Partly because it was originally defined to be a way of looking at the dance music he was most interested in.
Grievous Angel
Beast of Burden
Spyro is so hot right now
its this one - http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/music/2008/07/bouncy_techno_meets_terrible_r.html
maybe its not as bad as i had thought, at least its not as overt. its probably mainly because of where it is and who it is that it got me riled. but probably thats as good a reason as any other
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viktorvaughn
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It definitely leaves a bit of a sour taste...
People get conditioned to hearing London voices MCing - some of those donk bars aren't any worse than some random youngers on Axe FM etc. but they are easier to mock cos they sound like Peter Kaye and there therefore less real.
mos dan
fact music
you mean less 'real'
i agree, the mcing isn't bad in and of itself at all!i think the problem is more the musical backdrop, in terms of taking blackout seriously. i absolutely love the redbrick backdrop to 'won't you' or whatever that track with the bouncing breasts is.. (discussed on here earlier this year i think). it's a perfectly 'endzish' northern counterpart to an east ldn grime 'hood video'.
IdleRich
IdleRich
Seems there was one in the seventies at least
http://www.electrofunkroots.co.uk/interviews/les_spaine.html
benjybars
village elder.
haha... i always think that whenever i hear/read about people (usually blackdown
) being at the start of fwd ... great, let's just stand around and watch each other drink... haha... i always think that whenever i hear/read about people (usually blackdown
If low turnouts and people not dancing is what makes groundbreaking nights, then ours would have been the stuff of legend. More dj's than punters is not a good look
spain to wigan and glasgow? really? wow.
fwiw, it doesn't surprise me in the least that me/prancehall/most dissensians/the observer arts editor/simon reynolds are just finding out about this this year (even if you already posted about it last year, sorry straight!) - it's the bassline problem again: except for occasional bursts of interest like this, no-one in london gives a shit about anything that happens outside london. that sounds horrible but i'm pretty sure it's true.
scousehousetapes.com? i smell a side-project slackk..
Sort of. the kids round that time were much more connected, + many free party ravers were into all that hardcore dnb like evil intent and limewax so the divisions were probably felt more in the older crowds. otherwise we didn't hate bassline before heartbroken, noone had heard of funky in fact,, that was no trainers allowed crowd. Amateur bourgeois philosophers with ph.ds took nuum as an ontology and not an *you know* continuum and that's why it became an old boys club. dubstep was old boys (aside from the producers.) funky was old boys. garage/soulful house, for a long time and continues to be old boys.
A lot of hardcore was trash music but because many old dissensians tried to disown their detroit techno past they couldn't really acknowledge that and ended up talking about photek and moving shadow more than kniteforce records the trip snowball, ibiza, x project, phuture assassins, bizzy b etc etc.
So really what happened looking back was half the purists that blissblogger lamented actually crossed over to his side.
I didn't have this problem. I'm not ashamed of my class position and hence saw no problem in liking acen and xenakis simultaneously. yeah I'm pretty much middle class these days what of it? noone wants to live in council flats as an edgey poverty tourism posture. we all got out as quick as possible. for the left this is an unspeakable crime but most immigrants and most people in general know that immediate socialisation of production is not gonna happen over night. you gotta take what u can. actually we always hated slummers the most, i never ever saw any value in it unlike Matthew, you've got all those opportunities and you squander them for what, a weird statist political ideal that will never materialise?
This sort of lumpen raggamuffin-techno is as much foundational to the nuum.
in fact in his wire articles bliss was way closer when he used the term ragga-techno.
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like i remember around 2009 when people were debating wobble going global and some people were like yeah we wanna be dark but not horrorcore dark, more like reinforced. but reinforced was also very much a part of that trashy serotonin maxed out vibe. so actually what happens is people shift the genius/senius dialectic to apply to a crew/label. the auteur remains, it just becomes condensed like a state monopoly. this is why under communism neither geniuses nor senius will exist.
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