crackerjack
Well-known member
Really? I'd be a lot more shocked if such a place didn't exist.
Neo-Nazi forum hacked
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Really? I'd be a lot more shocked if such a place didn't exist.
Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
Swastikas and that are illegal in Germany, full stop. You can't even put one on the front of a history book.
fokse vektaire xeven
Arab Nazi
Certainly artists of the "I'm not a Nazi, i just flirt with the imagery" variety have found their most regular paying audience in Germany, and I'm sure the attraction is magnified if not in some cases created by the legal status of Nazi paraphernalia, and as such has more to with transgression than ideology, although there is of course a crossover into a smaller politically nazist audience. so i'd imagine both would be the answer.
quick scan of the comments thread re: whether guerrilla privacy invasions of this kind can ever be considered acceptable, and whether targetting extremist groups such as these is ultimately worthwhile. personally it brings to mind the supposed brown assassination plot- it's hard to get at the details of that story but it largely seems to rest on threats made on an internet forum.
mos dan
fact music
in a shop in central berlin? i'm surprised. especially since it sounds quite blatantly illegal.
if this stuff was sold out of some guy's basement in the middle of nowhere it would be another matter.
crackerjack
Well-known member
Ah, i get your drift now - thought you meant you were surprised there was a demand for the stuff.
I missed that {It was VERY well hidden!}
''The thinking behind the white-collar/blue-collar grading is deeply flawed, particularly when you see that bank clerks, nurses, and even teachers, who in the past would have been considered middle class, are today in terms of pay and conditions far nearer to those occupations that are considered firmly working class.
Ultimately the core working class fall into two main categories: those whose work produces a direct profit for their employer (obviously by no means just blue-collar workers) and those engaged in supplementary occupations essential to the functioning of the economy who put in long hours for low pay. Most often these are the same people who most want change and so serve as the natural constituency of the IWCA.''
In effect they are saying we're a nation of working class people fooling ourselves into thinking we're middle class.''The Independent Middle Class Association'' wouldn't sound as 'edgy' would it?
The revolution begins in...{working class?} Oxford!
http://www.myspace.com/thekandytangerineman
john eden
male pale and stale
Can you show me where they use the word revolution?
What do you think of their work in Oxford?
http://www.iwca-oxford.org.uk/blackbirdleys/
matt b
Indexing all opinion
which isn't far from the truth, no?
The revolution begins in...{working class?} Oxford!
oxford has a long history of w.class (and m.class) radicalism, going back hundreds of years. not that i care, not having lived there for 17 years, obv.
Yes,they are bang on the money there.Unfortunately for them there are very few people who have the ambition to work their way to the BOTTOM of the barrel and few of those that are there already wish to wallow in it.
''I don’t care to belong to any club that will have me as a member.''
http://www.myspace.com/thekandytangerineman
mos dan
fact music
this is precisely julian baggini's contention (see my earlier post)
matt b
Indexing all opinion
ah, i misunderstood the use of the term 'embourgeoisement', which is about is about aspirations/lifestyle, not income. (so we all percieve ourselves as middle class, when we are not).
thus, when the media hark on about 'inheritance tax strike on middle classes' (or whatever), we get all confused and feel put upon, even though we would never have enough capital to pay inheritance tax
A Customer Review on the Amazon site summarized his view of the English as:
''A nation obsessed by status, tolerant but wary of other cultures and prefer familiarity and convenience to that which is alien or challenging''.
Far Right parties stand do very well as the credit runs out and people look for convenient targets to blame for their financial ills
http://www.myspace.com/thekandytangerineman
Grievous Angel
Beast of Burden
Eeeh, that's a bit low isn't it tyro? I don't agree with the iwca's ideology, but I certainly like what they physically do. Have you had a look at any of that stuff, like the link john suggested? They don't really deserve that kind of bile...
I have read the links that I was pointed towards,but I dont see much there to inspire me.
Most of what they are putting forward is nothing more than 'New Labour' bashing.
''The Independent Working Class Association started in the mid-1990s, following the removal of Clause Four from the constitution of the Labour Party. The analysis presented here, from October 1995, sets out the basis on which the new organisation was formed.''
''When New Labour was elected in May 1997, the IWCA responded by setting up a number of pilot schemes in selected places across the country.''
They are in effect the 'Old Labour' Militant Tendency,still harping on about ''The legacy of Thatcherism'' in 2008!
http://www.thelocal.de/14159/20080907/
Around 1,100 neo-Nazis gathered in Dortmund over the weekend for a big march through the western city on Saturday, attracting counter-demonstrators and conflict.
Their march on Saturday attracted an estimated 1,500 people who demonstrated against it, including what police described as some 700 from leftist groups who took part in a separate demonstration, which had been denied official permission.
The mainstream anti-fascist demonstration attracted many regional politicians, with Social Democrat (SPD) general secretary Michael Groschek calling for Dortmund citizens to set a “sign for democracy and diversity and against national socialism and xenophobia.”
Police said that as the evening drew in, trouble started between the right wing extremists and their opponents, as well as officers who tried to keep them apart.
Six neo-Nazis and 47 left-wingers were arrested, police reported.
does this flag not count as nazi regalia which is supposedly illegal?
Around 1,100 neo-Nazis gathered in Dortmund over the weekend for a big march through the western city on Saturday, attracting counter-demonstrators and conflict.
Their march on Saturday attracted an estimated 1,500 people who demonstrated against it, including what police described as some 700 from leftist groups who took part in a separate demonstration, which had been denied official permission.
The mainstream anti-fascist demonstration attracted many regional politicians, with Social Democrat (SPD) general secretary Michael Groschek calling for Dortmund citizens to set a “sign for democracy and diversity and against national socialism and xenophobia.”
Police said that as the evening drew in, trouble started between the right wing extremists and their opponents, as well as officers who tried to keep them apart.
Six neo-Nazis and 47 left-wingers were arrested, police reported.
does this flag not count as nazi regalia which is supposedly illegal?
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does this flag not count as nazi regalia which is supposedly illegal?
There are different versions of the "Reichskriegsflagge" and I think only the versions with swastikas used after 1935 are illegal. These cunts put a lot of effort into stressing the limits of what they can show openly.
Martin Dust
Techno Zen Master
They would also have all the PM's in system if they have the database.
straight
wings cru
there were 2 massive guys wearing bomber jackets with rather silly looking embroidered suede waistcoats with iron crosses and various gothic scripts similar to those shown above (i dont speak german). Pretty terrifying to look at when you've been up for 2 days but they were actually quite polite
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Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
Haha, all hail the Nazi fopthugs!
Are you sure they weren't just *really* edgy hipsters?
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this made me chuckle to myself