padraig (u.s.)
a monkey that will go ape
props to ory, chris (except, no offense, for that bit about "music majors" - I understand what you meant & find that kinda mentality to be immensely aggravating but you can't just lump 'em all in together), evergreen & of course blissblogger himself for saying it better than I could.
fair play then. so long as there's not the added implication that your "more formal approach" is somehow a better or more worthy one. not that you're making that implication, just tbc.
to make one "technical" point this is also true of the drums. that's what I was driving at about the breakbeast - not the increase in tempo but the simultaneous & far more important imo increase in complexity behind anything that could possibly be replicated by even the most skillful of human drummers. & not just total Amen rinseouts like Remarc & Bizzy B made, also dudes like Photek & Source Direct with their intricately layered, absurdly complex & detailed layers of drums. this could also be fairly chalked up to technology but 1) the junglists (including Alec Empire & his cohorts as junglists) were still the guys to pioneer it (all the mashed up drill n bass IDM business came in later, specifically in response to jungle) & 2) more generally to your point about technology I think that producers finding ways to use the available technology in ways it wasn't originally intended are the definition of "innovation" - if you want to differentiate we can perhaps call them innovations in sound engineering or whatever rather than innovations in "music".
Personally I take a more formal approach to the idea of "innovation" in music. If others don't, that's obviously fine, and their prerogative. I just don't agree with thm.
fair play then. so long as there's not the added implication that your "more formal approach" is somehow a better or more worthy one. not that you're making that implication, just tbc.
If anything the thing that makes it stand out is its use of technological innovation to overcome the limitations of the human voice, i.e. when it speeds up vocal samples to a frequency/pitch that most people can't sing.
to make one "technical" point this is also true of the drums. that's what I was driving at about the breakbeast - not the increase in tempo but the simultaneous & far more important imo increase in complexity behind anything that could possibly be replicated by even the most skillful of human drummers. & not just total Amen rinseouts like Remarc & Bizzy B made, also dudes like Photek & Source Direct with their intricately layered, absurdly complex & detailed layers of drums. this could also be fairly chalked up to technology but 1) the junglists (including Alec Empire & his cohorts as junglists) were still the guys to pioneer it (all the mashed up drill n bass IDM business came in later, specifically in response to jungle) & 2) more generally to your point about technology I think that producers finding ways to use the available technology in ways it wasn't originally intended are the definition of "innovation" - if you want to differentiate we can perhaps call them innovations in sound engineering or whatever rather than innovations in "music".
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