Music that is psychedelic

[nomadthethird]

Is it just me, or does a lot of good psychedelic music make you think of outer space, and/or billions of years of evolution, and/or technology being part of evolution, and/or lots of microscopic processes happening all at once?

I get some of that from the fourth world volumes (evolution), but sometimes I get it from Aphex Twin (technology as evolution), too, or the first Tangerine Dream album (outer space).

 

[IdleRich]

If you like that one, the album is definitely worth buying. It's got a skewed pan-Afro futurism to it that's like nothing else I've heard, and definitely like nothing else that was released around that time...definitely my favorite Brian Eno collab, much better than "My Life in the Bush of Ghosts" which is a good but overrated.

Well, looks as though it's nice and cheap...
Thing is, my flat mate moves out this month which is good in as much as I will have the place to myself and I will really feel like I can rex out all my records as loud as I want and stuff - but on the other hand I'm going to be as poor as a chuch mouse 'cause I lose his rent. Gotta make cutbacks and the things that I was planning to cut out were records. I expect I can borrow it off someone.

 

[nomadthethird]

Well, looks as though it's nice and cheap...
Thing is, my flat mate moves out this month which is good in as much as I will have the place to myself and I will really feel like I can rex out all my records as loud as I want and stuff - but on the other hand I'm going to be as poor as a chuch mouse 'cause I lose his rent. Gotta make cutbacks and the things that I was planning to cut out were records. I expect I can borrow it off someone.

God roommates are the worst! The worst. But they're better than paying more than half of your monthly salary in rent.

 

[luka]

the first phychedilc experince i had was a love supreme before i took phychedilc, that put me on my knees literally heart fit to burst tlaking of relogios dimension
but nina-sinnerman, that has me raising arms to heaven but not phychedilc i think. so not a straight religion=phychedicl correspondance if you get my meaning.

 

[Chris]

...if you get my meaning.

"yaaa.... totally understand where you're coming from"

 

[luka]

re the miles davis i meant wili pt 2. i got confused. sorry/

 

[luka]

those drums do somethinng weird to time.

 

[zhao]

maybe a common element in all things mentioned in this thread: indian classical, santoor, space electronics, kraut mantras, out jazz, eno ---- is

overtones.

i have a difficult time think of a more potent and immediately effective psychoactive musical device/phenomenon.

when 2 waves couple to create a 3rd ghost wave... i need no chemical substances.

tibetan bells remain one of the most acute articulation of this --- those pure reverberating tones are a one way ticket to eternity, and the train has already left the station. no time to say goodbye, you either on it or you not.

reminds me i should upload the tibetan bells recordings...

 

[Chris]

that's an interesting point, zhao...


I wonder if it's their spectral, half-there quality that give them that effect...?

kind of a liminal, link between two worlds thing?




Elizabeth Fraser's voice does that for me, like her voice hits some deeper (and I ain't talkin' about deep as in low) register, igniting this feeling of sehnsucht, this almost profound spiritual longing.

 

[zhao]

that's an interesting point, zhao...


I wonder if it's their spectral, half-there quality that give them that effect...?

kind of a liminal, link between two worlds thing?




Elizabeth Fraser's voice does that for me, like her voice hits some deeper (and I ain't talkin' about deep as in low) register, igniting this feeling of sehnsucht, this almost profound spiritual longing.

surely the half-there quality is part of the enigma and power... but the actual sound itself which results from the combination of 2 or more sounds, usually a reverberating tone, like guitar feedback in good rock music or in Gamelan, that sound itself, because experientially speaking it absolutely exists... those kind of sounds are so fucking amazing. it takes me to places i didn't know existed and re-wires my brain...

it is decided. i will put together a compilation or mix of music drenched in overtones. there will be surely Tuvian throat singers, Tibetan Bells, Gamelan, Scelsi, Alvin Lucier, etc.

 

[Bang Diddley]

maybe a common element in all things mentioned in this thread: indian classical, santoor, space electronics, kraut mantras, out jazz, eno ---- is

overtones.

i have a difficult time think of a more potent and immediately effective psychoactive musical device/phenomenon.

when 2 waves couple to create a 3rd ghost wave... i need no chemical substances.

tibetan bells remain one of the most acute articulation of this --- those pure reverberating tones are a one way ticket to eternity, and the train has already left the station. no time to say goodbye, you either on it or you not.

reminds me i should upload the tibetan bells recordings...

Brilliant reading this thread. But yes overtones, pepitition, drone, '3rd ghost wave' (nice turn of phrase) is pure psych accoustic. Great example of it on the 3rd track on SAWII (rhubard as some people know it).

 

[zhao]

an even better example is this.

 

[Bang Diddley]

Yeah was going to look out for Ocara. Big thanks Zhao.

 

[zhao]

oh oops, the link i meant to post is actually specifically to this item.

 

[vimothy]

http://differentwaters.blogspot.com/2008/06/ocora-india-part-4-dirty-south.html
and here is the 6 CD la monte young well tuned piano:

If Sunn were any good, this is what they'd sound like.

 

[vimothy]

oh oops, the link i meant to post is actually specifically to this item.

Yes -- David Hykes!

 

[mistersloane]

If Sunn were any good, this is what they'd sound like.

Is radiation psychedelic? It's kinda the obverse of psychedelic maybe.

 

[mistersloane]

He's the guy out of Van Der Graaf Generator.

That's such a great response to the question. I've kinda got time for Peter Hammill, and I think you'd like him Mr Tea if you like that stuff you posted, but I can't listen to him now. I once endured him live for two hours and I'd been quite open up until that point but it absolutely ruined me ever being able to hear his music and not think 'what a long nosed ponce' ever again. I got problems with prog in general, probably should go to prog therapy or something for them.

 

[mistersloane]

This is the thing that got me started off really. I don't see what's psychedelic about bands like The Seeds - I mean, I think they're fantastic but which ones are psychedelic and why? Maybe the intro of this one.
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It's all about the tone of the guitar I think. I really want to transport them so they can play in my living room through Mr tea's time machine. He's blatantly building one.

 

[mistersloane]

I was wondering if anyone was going to mention any krautrock - some of the repetitive stuff is surely some of the most trance-inducing - if that is something related to psychedelia.

A trance state is related, maybe psychedelia is a sub-set of trance induction. Dr John, for example, for me he's sex music, coupled with - on Gris Gris - religious rites. The whole Mississippi delta I think is about trance - I saw some amazing footage once of a house party in the Delta from the 60s, and it was just one riff going on for hours and hours and hours; see also Parliament.

Parliament are the key for me with separating out that trance state into a psychedelic one. And that's definitely where space comes in.

Thinking about it, psychedelia for me would be that which mimics a psychedelic experience, which would be about going out of oneself - drifting - and then coming back in. I think that's different from a hallucinatory space, or a trance one. Maybe it's about pleasure as well. I find what I'd think to be psychedelic intensely pleasurable, even when it's dark.