Naomi Klein - The Shock Doctrine

[josef k.]

"Sure, why not?"

Well, I don't know. Is there a more-or-less equal distribution of child sex slaves in every world city?

 

[vimothy]

Are you talking about the devil's verse? He hold's grudges, you know.

 

[nomadthethird]

this sounds fantastic if the people in power buy into it. which, ah...

I mean like most things having to do w/democracy this all works better the more affluence there is, more surplus of power so to speak. but there isn't enough affluence to go around is there...

Yeah, and they usually don't. But does that mean those who do should stop?

I mean, the tard gallery is having fun letting this thread descend into chaos, as they usually do when their idiotic arguments have been shown up for the nonsense that they are, so have fun with it.

 

[vimothy]

Feed the trolls

It means that they win!

 

[nomadthethird]

"Sure, why not?"

Well, I don't know. Is there a more-or-less equal distribution of child sex slaves in every world city?

Child sex slavery is a huge problem in the "Islamic world" among other places.

 

[josef k.]

I mean, the tard gallery is having fun letting this thread descend into chaos, as they usually do when their idiotic arguments have been shown up for the nonsense that they are, so have fun with it.

Speaking on behalf of that party, we thank you nonetheless for your heroic efforts to drag it back to the really important questions.

 

[padraig (u.s.)]

In girum imus nocte et consumimur igni.

what the hell does this actually mean? I know it's some kind of play in words but what concept is it supposed to express?

 

[nomadthethird]

what the hell does this actually mean? I know it's some kind of play in words but what concept is it supposed to express?

It means Vimothy and Josef are embarrassed by their own stupidity.

 

[vimothy]

Padraig -- http://williambader.com/ingirum.html

It's usually translated as something like, "We go round and round in the night and are consumed by the fire".

EDIT: Although Nomad's translation is more literal.

 

[josef k.]

"It means Vimothy and Josef are embarrassed by their own stupidity."

Some of this is even true!

 

[padraig (u.s.)]

Padraig -- http://williambader.com/ingirum.html

It's usually translated as something like, "We go round and round in the night and are consumed by the fire".

EDIT: Although Nomad's translation is more literal.

both versions are a right larf though. too jokes, as it were.

 

[nomadthethird]

Hardy har har. So funny.

 

[vimothy]

Anyone standing up for the rights of the disenfranchised or disempowered should stop standing up for those rights because that's too much like "speaking for" them...

 

[padraig (u.s.)]

Yeah, and they usually don't. But does that mean those who do should stop?

I mean, the tard gallery is having fun letting this thread descend into chaos, as they usually do when their idiotic arguments have been shown up for the nonsense that they are, so have fun with it.

actually I dunno I thought it was pretty interesting until, no offense, you showed up. not that I agreed with everything that was put forward but I dunno, it was a discourse. not that discourse has to be civil. anyway.

no, it doesn't mean "those who do" should stop. but 1) they're in the minority, certainly, over the long run of history & 2) anyone who buys into isn't the problem, yuhfeelme? *EDIT* to elucidate: trusting the powerful to buy into "it" of their own accord is a sucker's bet. goes against human nature doesn't it.

 

[nomadthethird]

actually I dunno I thought it was pretty interesting until, no offense, you showed up. not that I agreed with everything that was put forward but I dunno, it was a discourse. not that discourse has to be civil. anyway.

no, it doesn't mean "those who do" should stop. but 1) they're in the minority, certainly, over the long run of history & 2) anyone who buys into isn't the problem, yuhfeelme?

I didn't do anything but disagree with the usual suspects, who act like flagrant babies whenever anybody does just that. This is one time when it was definitely not me doing the thread derailing.

Yes, of course, I agree with you. Isn't that obvious?

 

[padraig (u.s.)]

Hardy har har. So funny.

oh lighten up a bit

or we could go out & beat up people advocating for the poor & disenfranchised I suppose?

 

[nomadthethird]

oh lighten up a bit

Me? I'm pretty lightened up.

 

[josef k.]

The metaphor of the derailing thread is quite interesting. It is a crazily mixed-metaphor. The thread is a train, and the train is a thread. Either, it was going to get somewhere, or sew everything up. I guess it starts sewing mutantly, and spins into oblivion.

 

[padraig (u.s.)]

Yes, of course, I agree with you. Isn't that obvious?

nah fair play then.

 

[nomadthethird]

The metaphor of the derailing thread is quite interesting. It is a crazily mixed-metaphor. The thread is a train, and the train is a thread. Either, it was going to get somewhere, or sew everything up. I guess it starts sewing mutantly, and spins into oblivion.

Meanwhile, who gives a fuck.