bnek
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jebus that was nice of you! many cheers. downloading now...
perhaps i can upload some brazilian niceness in return - have you the aforementioned baden powell quartet lps?
Your top 5 countries of best music
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jebus that was nice of you! many cheers. downloading now...
perhaps i can upload some brazilian niceness in return - have you the aforementioned baden powell quartet lps?
Mr. Tea
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I'm not talking about historical precedence - the USA's only been around for a blink of an eye, but I'd say it's had a fairly big cultural impact on the rest of the world, wouldn't you?
Edit: hang on a minute here...
"It could not be called out of the way to ask whether..." - hardly sounds like concrete case there.
And:
If this were the case, how come the Greeks speak an Indo-European language, rather than a Semetic one? How come their religion and mythology has analogues in other Indo-European, not Semetic, civilisations? Bear in mind rastas believe they're descended from the Twelve Tribes of Israel: doesn't make it historically accurate...
To say there was a Persian/Middle Eastern influence on Greece, fine. But to say that Greece in its entirety was based on other civilisations, with no cultural innovation of its own, is utter crap.
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no one said Greeks didn't come up with shit on they own. in terms of philosophy, etc. (at the same time a lot of thinkers were very much influenced by eastern philosophy, Heraclitus for instance) they even dropped some science on their masters and teachers, the Persians, in the field of medicine.
but their debt to Persia has been down-played since back then, and even more now. fact that greeks ended up with title of "cradle of Western blah blah" is just an accident -- result of pure circumstance. the Middle East is the real rightful bearer of that title.
but their debt to Persia has been down-played since back then, and even more now. fact that greeks ended up with title of "cradle of Western blah blah" is just an accident -- result of pure circumstance. the Middle East is the real rightful bearer of that title.
Mr. Tea
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Sure, there was a big influence, but the German guy quoted on that website seemed to be saying "well is there even ANYTHING the Greeks did off their own backs?", and the answer is obvious "yes, a hell of a lot". Even if the seeds of much of it may ultimately have come from somewhere else.
mistersloane
heavy heavy monster sound
Martin Bernall's 'Black Athena' series is an interesting and controversial read around these subjects
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Bernal
no i haven't heard those. would be great to check them out!
on the jazz samba side i've always really liked Ike Quebec. term he actually used was "Archaic Greece". i think most of the independent innovations came in a later period.
thanks for alerting me to this guy! makes sense to me
1. GERMANY
they invented the techno.
2. UK
your techno is better than their techno.
3. INDONESIA
their music sounds like techno, minus all the techno parts.
4. NIGERIA
not particularly techno, tho i have to give them props,
as this awesome gothic hippy girl once insisted i
was this guy in a prior life:
5. CAMBODIA
kind of half nigerian, half indonesian, with the best breakdowns EVER, assuming by "breakdowns" you mean "part of the song where all the music stops and the singers begin sobbing inconsolably."
they invented the techno.
2. UK
your techno is better than their techno.
3. INDONESIA
their music sounds like techno, minus all the techno parts.
4. NIGERIA
not particularly techno, tho i have to give them props,
as this awesome gothic hippy girl once insisted i
was this guy in a prior life:
5. CAMBODIA
kind of half nigerian, half indonesian, with the best breakdowns EVER, assuming by "breakdowns" you mean "part of the song where all the music stops and the singers begin sobbing inconsolably."
bnek
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sing_minimal
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ofcourse you forgot about the aborigine digeridoo techno.
Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
Lots of things are 'interesting and controversial' without being true.
From the Wiki article:
...just as I've been saying: these civilisations were the dominant ones in the period prior to and during the genesis of Greek culture, so it'd be ridiculous to deny there was an influence going on, which is why no-one is doing so!
"The Establishment says I'm wrong, so I must be right!" - hmm, heard *that* one before! http://www.dissensus.com/showthread.php?t=6471
Quite a claim to make with no evidence...
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Mr. Tea
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sing_minimal
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im pretty sure there were both.
i love that persian stuf you posted back there..i wish you guys would talk more about that kind of excellent stuff..not just persian/ancient and not just in this topic..music in general..stuff you don't get to hear about on boomkat or pitchfork
i love that persian stuf you posted back there..i wish you guys would talk more about that kind of excellent stuff..not just persian/ancient and not just in this topic..music in general..stuff you don't get to hear about on boomkat or pitchfork
word. i heard that. what i have to do is put together a comp of the most wickedest tunes around de world you won't hear about on boomkat or pitchfork™. i went ahead and trademarked that one, hope you don't mind (even though was your idea
) oh my lord... there is this one Indonesian track from the Music of Islam series, what sounds like a 14 year old girl vocalist just letting it rip, and the sick sick drums come in... goosebumps just thinking about it!!!!!!!!
unbelievable.
sing_minimal
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i was checking all i could find in that islam series myself when i was looking for a song/surah i heard on a radio..plenty of that inthere but not that one guy with most awesome voice.
i don't remember the song you're talking about either.
and a compilation of tunes would be ace..i didn't think it was allowed to post mp3s on here or else i'd ask this before hehe. i'd post a selection myself, but it would probably/surely turn out rather ridicolus since you all have been probably listening to that stuff when you were getting into proper music : )
i don't remember the song you're talking about either.
and a compilation of tunes would be ace..i didn't think it was allowed to post mp3s on here or else i'd ask this before hehe. i'd post a selection myself, but it would probably/surely turn out rather ridicolus since you all have been probably listening to that stuff when you were getting into proper music : )
sodiumnightlife
Sweet Virginia
ehhh some of us are stillvery much at the boomkat level so post away....i'm hella ignorant me.
Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
You can dance to it, too, which is another big plus in my book.