funny,i only just saw this thread but i've been listening to what we do loads recently too,its fantastic
looking forward to working through this thread and the pop one once i get a chance
Hip-Hop '00s
- Thread starter luka
- Start date
funny,i only just saw this thread but i've been listening to what we do loads recently too,its fantastic
looking forward to working through this thread and the pop one once i get a chance
Poisonous Dart
Lone Swordsman
What were you listening to?
I personally thought the album was kind of an embarrassment both sonically and lyrically. So much so that none of the other members of the Wu dared to guest appear on it. The other Wu Elements (Allah Mathematics, Bronze Nazareth, Cilvarings, True Master, 4th Disciple, etc.) are more in demand production wise than RZA is right now.
If he's doing a score or a soundtrack, he's fine. As far as leaving him to his own devices and not giving him a project to focus on with some boundaries his material ends up being crap.
One.
I personally thought the album was kind of an embarrassment both sonically and lyrically. So much so that none of the other members of the Wu dared to guest appear on it. The other Wu Elements (Allah Mathematics, Bronze Nazareth, Cilvarings, True Master, 4th Disciple, etc.) are more in demand production wise than RZA is right now.
If he's doing a score or a soundtrack, he's fine. As far as leaving him to his own devices and not giving him a project to focus on with some boundaries his material ends up being crap.
One.
Poisonous Dart
Lone Swordsman
No...no it hasn't.
It's actually been a pretty good year for Hip Hop. Major label wise? Dreadful. Underground? A truckload of excellent under the radar albums have dropped this year. Read my blog for details.
One.
It's actually been a pretty good year for Hip Hop. Major label wise? Dreadful. Underground? A truckload of excellent under the radar albums have dropped this year. Read my blog for details.
One.
sodiumnightlife
Sweet Virginia
I think it takes a while for it to sink in why he's so good. He's just so strange, he comes out with so much weird stuff that totally makes you laugh. The voice gets you after a while too i think. Download last year's free mixtape, da drought 3, and listen to that. I got hooked on him after I'd listened to that.
Though i'm not sure about best ever...
Though i'm not sure about best ever...
Poisonous Dart
Lone Swordsman
Oh, Corpsey....
Nas>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Lil' Wayne
Jay Z>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Lil' Wayne
Ghostface Killah>>>>>>>>>>>Lil' Wayne
Lupe Fiasco>>>>>>>>>>>>>Lil' Wayne
Common>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Lil' Wayne
Elzhi>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Lil' Wayne
Joe Budden>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Lil' Wayne
Royce Da 5'9">>>>>>>>>>>>>>Lil' Wayne
Scarface>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Lil' Wayne
AZ>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Lil' Wayne
Bishop Lamont>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Lil' Wayne
Ras Kass>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Lil' Wayne
Jay Electronica>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Lil' Wayne
and the list goes on....
One.
Nas>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Lil' Wayne
Jay Z>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Lil' Wayne
Ghostface Killah>>>>>>>>>>>Lil' Wayne
Lupe Fiasco>>>>>>>>>>>>>Lil' Wayne
Common>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Lil' Wayne
Elzhi>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Lil' Wayne
Joe Budden>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Lil' Wayne
Royce Da 5'9">>>>>>>>>>>>>>Lil' Wayne
Scarface>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Lil' Wayne
AZ>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Lil' Wayne
Bishop Lamont>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Lil' Wayne
Ras Kass>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Lil' Wayne
Jay Electronica>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Lil' Wayne
and the list goes on....
One.
In terms of current relevancy, and mostly the kind of artist that Lil Wayne is, regardless of the genre he operates in, and how his mode of expression is so suited to the format of the current music industry in a way industry heads don't even really understand (hence, why they can't figure out how he's selling so many records), I'd say that Lil Wayne is pretty much better than any of those you listed. Specifically right NOW, of course.
That being said, I respect your particular taste for hip hop, and admire the depth of your passion for it, so it makes me feel kind of stupid saying shit like that, but almost all of those dudes you listed's careers peaked ages ago.
Last edited:
luka
Well-known member
im with sickboy.... in terms of career acheivements i'd agree with some of those people (lupe fiasco though? you must be carzy in the head) nas of course by a mile, ras kass, ghostface, maybe jay z, but right now not one of them is close... lil wayne is the one right now. (don't like the album one bit though)
Corpsey
bandz ahoy
This review seems to have helped me understand a bit more- it's his eccentricity, isn't it? Has anyone got a comp/mix of the best of Lil Wayne though, since apparently his albums/mixtapes are hit and miss?
sodiumnightlife
Sweet Virginia
For me da drought 3 was pretty much all hit, but yeah carter 3, the album that just came out, is definitely pretty patchy.
I don't even think its right to compare nas to little wayne, they both operate in hugely different territories. I think one thing that stands Lil Wayne apart from everyone else is that where they're all about reality, his life has never been anything but unreal. What age did he get signed at, like 9? It doesn't surprise me that the man is a drug addict with a totally warped view of things, I know i'd be if i'd spent my formative years on the road.
His metaphors are like no one elses, totally surrealistic without being try hard, and his rhythms are amazing, the man has a sense of timing that is all his own.
I don't even think its right to compare nas to little wayne, they both operate in hugely different territories. I think one thing that stands Lil Wayne apart from everyone else is that where they're all about reality, his life has never been anything but unreal. What age did he get signed at, like 9? It doesn't surprise me that the man is a drug addict with a totally warped view of things, I know i'd be if i'd spent my formative years on the road.
His metaphors are like no one elses, totally surrealistic without being try hard, and his rhythms are amazing, the man has a sense of timing that is all his own.
sodiumnightlife
Sweet Virginia
Poisonous Dart
Lone Swordsman
Greatest Rapper Alive?
I don't care about the "hotness" or relevancy argument. I can't argue that Lil' Wayne is far and away the most popular Hip Hop artist on the planet right now. I'm talking about his statement that he is the "Greatest Rapper Alive" (a claim he stole from Jay-Z, mind you!). After he said that I was like "Oh, really?". He get eaten alive by about 100 dudes I could name off the top of my head that no one on these boards have ever heard of and a gang more that actually have recognizable names.
All I'm saying is if you make a claim, you better be able to live up to it. Hottest in the game? I wouldn't try to dispute it. Greatest alive or best alive? FOH!
One.
I don't care about the "hotness" or relevancy argument. I can't argue that Lil' Wayne is far and away the most popular Hip Hop artist on the planet right now. I'm talking about his statement that he is the "Greatest Rapper Alive" (a claim he stole from Jay-Z, mind you!). After he said that I was like "Oh, really?". He get eaten alive by about 100 dudes I could name off the top of my head that no one on these boards have ever heard of and a gang more that actually have recognizable names.
All I'm saying is if you make a claim, you better be able to live up to it. Hottest in the game? I wouldn't try to dispute it. Greatest alive or best alive? FOH!
One.
Benny Bunter
Well-known member
i dunno what all the fuss is about Lil Wayne claiming he's the best anyway. Don't most rappers say this sort of thing all the time in their lyrics, regardless of how popular they are or how many records they've had out? :slanted:
sodiumnightlife
Sweet Virginia
sodiumnightlife
Sweet Virginia
Look! it's a very little lil wayne
pretty awesome song too
edit: and another one
sorry i don't whether these are before or after the millennium.
pretty awesome song too
edit: and another one
sorry i don't whether these are before or after the millennium.
Last edited:
This is the tune right here:
WHOAAADIE
-- getting back to tunes from this year specifically I really liked this one from Bun B's album, even if it did feature Rick Ross on it.
The album wasn't toobad on the whole, but it was nowhere near as good as his debut. This tune is my favourite from it.
WHOAAADIE
-- getting back to tunes from this year specifically I really liked this one from Bun B's album, even if it did feature Rick Ross on it.
The album wasn't toobad on the whole, but it was nowhere near as good as his debut. This tune is my favourite from it.
Last edited:
the "hah hah hah" breathing sounds in all of those Cash Money records is so great...