FairiesWearBoots

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yh I'm not sayng I want to to hear funky in Sainsburys but a certain amount of success and audience beyond its current status would help the scene - wheer you draw the line is another discussion

just trying to understand why it hasnt grabbed as many ears - esp girls ears
 

Blackdown

nexKeysound
i guess its just the internet tho isnt it. theres something deeply corny about thee internet. discobelle, lo bee, fact, fader, pitchfork, southern hospitality, cocaine blunts.... a hundred thousand muisc blogs. its a bit depressing. i dont even know if its posisbl to do something on the internt and for it not to be corny.


why is having music blogs depressing? give me music blogs to read any day rather than commercial mainstream music outlets or even print magazines who care too much about advertisers and cant use multimedia to its full strength.
 

Tentative Andy

I'm in the Meal Deal
*stop compiling Funky Sainsburys Volume 6 album* ;)

just trying to understand why it hasnt grabbed as many ears - esp girls ears

This is an even better question than before though (and even though I know it sounds patronising/ott to say this, I do really appreciate when people come on here with constructive questions).
I maybe can't give you the best answer to it though because I've lost touch somewhat with what the 'average girl' is into, esp the average suburban girl. Back when I was in high school, r'n'b was massive with the females and of course fitted with a lot of stuff in 2-step garage (also jungle had some great r'n'b-ish bits which is sometimes forgotten), but I get the impression that it's not quite as big as it once was in the UK.
Some people might disagree with me here, but I do think that in its earlier stages the UK funky scene had too much of a cautious, conservative estimation of what 'the laydeez' would & could be into - which led to a lot of focus on slightly watery, tepid soulful-house style vocals. But this def isn't the case any more, the female vocal tunes that you here now have much more rudeness (in all senses of the word) to them. This sort of attitudenal/assertive female voice is def one of the strong points of funky for me. Of course I have seen the case made that the change has gone too far, so that rather than being overly tasteful and mature the vocals are now overly shrill and girlish. This may be true in a few cases, but overall the development seems positive.

I'd be interested to know - do you think funky getting bassier would link into it appealing to a wider audience of girls? Maybe that's not quite what you were asking, but it's interesting to ponder. I can see both sides I think - on the one hand, you often get this perception of bassy music as sexy (not sure exactly where this comes from, maybe because it moves the lower parts of the body, maybe just because sub-bass has an 'organic', non-digital feel) and you have this long tradition of 'wind up your waist to the bass' and so on. But on the other hand, bass-heavy music is often associtated with a 'serious boys' kind of audience - again hard to say exactly why, but maybe because the focus on bass leads to a lack of vocals or other hook elements. Actually I think this latter view of bass music is a wee bit of a stereotype at this stage, but interested to hear what you think.
 

FairiesWearBoots

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Thats exactly what I was getting at -

where are the young girls (Black & white) who listen to funky? they havent picked up on it yet -

I think its has something to with bass & 'bump'

Garage had it best - b-lines & dark tones for the rudeboys but with a swing/funk & soul for the girls
it had something for all - and so it grew
 

Tentative Andy

I'm in the Meal Deal
I think its has something to with bass & 'bump'

Yeah I agree with this.
Thing is, there are def some funky tunes that centre on bass-&-bump, but prob fair to say they're not quite the norm for the genre. Will have a think to see if I can come up with some particularly good examples (inc ones that haven't been discussed a lot already).
 

alex

Do not read this.
where are the young girls (Black & white) who listen to funky? they havent picked up on it yet -

they all go IF bar, seriously, it's heaving with females sometimes.

Edit* Andy, replied to your PM but doesnt seem to be in my sent items, hppe you got it.
 
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outraygeous

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UK garage took ages to get out of the M25. I dont think it ever did properly

Funky is the same, its a very London centric thing. Well events wise but i dont really check for funky events, im sure there are popular?
 

luka

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why is having music blogs depressing?

its not. i gave specific examples of blogs i find depressing. i dont share your taste in music so i dont read yours very often but i dont find it depressing. i think it is quite sweet.
 

luka

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its just the mindless giddy boosterism and gauche americanisms i resent. and the fact you just see the same shit on every blog.
 

gumdrops

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funky is all about girls. and its not brentwood or wherever but theres raves in ilford which technically isnt in london/is suburban. despite all the producers and djs fretting about there being too many guys in the clubs i dont think its really like that. the reason its not gotten bigger i think might just be cos its still seen as too black/urban/underground. theres no big chart hits to get wider attention/make it seem like everyone can do it, which is what would usually kickstart a new load of club nights outside from the scenes main players. plus maybe the fact its harder to get the actual records means theres less chance of non-insider djs getting enough stuff to play, though thats already been discussed and well i might be wrong. though i suspect its easier to start a new post dubstep night and have a shitload of new tracks to play than it would be for funky. whether anyone would come to a night like that in deepest southend though i dont know.
 

jimitheexploder

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You get funky peeps playing on the same bills as post-dubstep peeps up in Leeds. Same sort of crowd turns up to any of that stuff up here really, you get a few more dudes in suits looking like a wedding party buying champers when Marcus Nasty is in town but thats about the only difference.
 

luka

Well-known member
what does this mean?

leo THIS REFERES TO DUMB ENGLISH BLOG BODS WRITING LIKE THEY ARE TIM WESTWOOD OR SOMETHING.
We always have mad love for AZ here at Southern Hospitality. This is dope, AZ still displays his almost effortless skill on the mic, and yet always manages to sound so damn complex with his!
ENGLISH PEOPLE DO NOT TALK LIKE THIS.
TIM LEA I AM ALWAYS HAPPY. I LOVE EVERYONE. I AM VERY MISUNDERSTOOD. LIKE JESUS.
 
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