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He's probably right about pregnancies on reflection, cos a lot of people won't take it seriously enough. This is ofc very fucked up, but could also be a spike in abortions once the state of the NHS becomes clear and people see what's happening.
As said somewhere else, I have a friend who's pregnant and almost due, and praying for her sake that she gives birth asap before the coronavirus cases really start mounting up. I just don't even know what's gonna happen.

Yeah, state of hospitals rn is a scandal, this despite alot of whistleblowers saying what needs to be said. Rate of infection only goes down if testing is thorough, this is something everyone knows now. Will have to get addressed by our new socialist government at some point soon one would hope.
 

IdleRich

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Testing way behind other countries, but also gaps/differences between state and federal reporting, data time lag too
I get that - Trump keeps lying about the test's availability and so on... but presumably they can count deaths without the test, or are they being misattributed and just recorded as random deaths? In which case Trump's attempts to massage the figures is arguably working at this stage.
 

IdleRich

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I got a friend who had a baby last week here in Portugal, also another friend in Kenya who had a baby about a month back. I was saying that many years from now people will talk about them being born in the time of the great virus... and then I said, at least I hope so, I hope it won't be "the time of the first great virus" or "the small virus before the bad one or whatever".
 

Leo

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crazy: Italy just surpass china for reported deaths (3,405).

"reported" being the key word, who knows how many died in china, really.
 

Leo

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in fairness, if every flu-related death made headlines in mainstream media, those numbers would probably freak me out as well.
 

Corpsey

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I hope it won't be "the time of the first great virus" or "the small virus before the bad one or whatever".

The "upside" of this might be that it's put us on alert (properly) about a pandemic, without being as devastating as it could have been. So we're at least more prepared for something much worse.

Strange to think there will inevitably come a day when there's no upside whatsoever and the human race is absolutely done for.
 

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Coronavirus: Knottingley food bank closes after raid

Thieves have taken advantage of the coronavirus crisis and targeted a food bank to sell stolen goods in pubs, its manager has said.

Donations, including sanitary products and toilet rolls, were taken from the site in Knottingley, West Yorkshire.

Stockpiling restrictions mean the Trussel Trust food back cannot replace the items and will close.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-51964828
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
I saw Peston talking about this on Twitter yesterday.... crazy that they do nothing for ages and then bring in incredibly draconian measures that are gonna last for TWO YEARS
Especially as Boris announced today that the virus will be beaten in the UK within 12 weeks. How can it be so blatant that they say it's done in twelve weeks but need extra powers for two years to deal with it?
Of course we know 12 weeks is a lie but can't they even make their lies consistent?
 

IdleRich

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Meanwhile Trump announced today that chloroquine is a cure for the virus and that it had been tested and would be rolled out in the US very shortly... only to have the actual medical experts explain that this was another one of his lies.
 

IdleRich

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In Portugal the National State of Emergency is for two weeks... that's the longest it can be put in place for in one go to protect democracy from any party who might seek to use it to increase their powers and erode the checks and balances that would normally be there. This crisis is really allowing new democracies (eg Portugal, established 1974 I assume) to humiliatingly reveal the deficiencies in those such as UK and the US which have always liked to think that they have the best version of the concept.
 

padraig (u.s.)

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mayor just held press conference to address Chicago's coronavirus response. much speculation that she would order the city into a shelter in place lockdown.

instead she...issued a "stay at home if you're feeling sick" order with unspecified "consequences" if disobeyed

tbf she also announced various concrete economic measures to help people/business effected, freeze on foreclosures (tho not mortages/rent), etc

but like, what the fuck are we doing here? why are we delaying the inevitable? 4400+ new cases in U.S. today (134 in Illinois). every time I refresh Worldometers it's gone up a couple hundred. deaths still (relatively) low, but that'll change, obviously.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
Elgin-area strip club tried to operate during coronavirus "but nobody showed up"
That link is not available in Europe... though my brain first read it as being down because of the virus.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
California governor is saying that modelling predicts 25 million people in the state will be infected... says they don't have enough hospital beds and is requesting a hospital ship from the government. Ordering a lockdown.
 
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mrfaucet

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The "upside" of this might be that it's put us on alert (properly) about a pandemic, without being as devastating as it could have been. So we're at least more prepared for something much worse.

Strange to think there will inevitably come a day when there's no upside whatsoever and the human race is absolutely done for.

You would think, but apparently China splurged a load of money on an early warning system following SARs... but then no one used it for COVID-19 because it did them no favours to stick their neck out and flag what was happening.

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/soc...-did-chinas-multimillion-dollar-early-warning

Although that said the experience with SARs has obviously made places like Taiwan much better prepared. The Chinese political system presents its own incentives though.
 

padraig (u.s.)

a monkey that will go ape
California governor is saying that modelling predicts 25 million people in the state will be infected... says they don't have enough hospital beds and is requesting a hospital ship from the government. Ordering a lockdown.
he's absolutely doing the right thing. as always, it should have been done much sooner, but we can't waste any more time.

I imagine him/his people are seeing New York right now - which is set to be the Lombardy of the U.S. - and thinking we have to do whatever we can to get ahead of that.
 

IdleRich

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Just been looking at Twitter and loads of people are commenting to the effect of "No way I'm staying at home all day" - which doesn't exactly bode well.
 
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