Worst songs you've ever heard?
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tbf I'm slowly coming around to the opinion that dance music needed to be destroyed, and if the middle classes needed to dig their own grave, then so be it.
like punk before it, many people used the instruments in the same way their fathers used them.
the best dance music is precisely not *dance music proper* but dj music, like hard techno, early 8 bar stuff, 92 ardkore, chicago jack traxx etc.
All Joy O did was fold that sensibility of it only being club music and it only being suitable for nightclubs (not squats) into the last hideout of London. but as a whole that dynamic was long since under way, post-98 drum and bass, some of the nuskool breaksier stuff, 4x4, and of course dubstep. in fact the biggest weakness of dubstep was not the sound but the overidentification with plastic people and then DMZ at mass. as soon as people start talking about X-Y clubs, you can tell that a mythology will accrue around it which will eventually strangle it. even a lot of deep house producers who gush about paradise garage can't match larry's eclecticism.
only people who come close these days are traxx and hieroglyphic being. and Mick Wills from Germany, always willing to drop 'dance but not club' music in their sets.
sadmanbarty
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Musical Americana.
I don’t see how it can be offensive to English people. It’s such a caricature. It’s so “duuuuude awesome”. I’ve never met someone in my whole life that’s like that song, so it has no social
Connotations. It’s like finding Uzbeki flute music offensive.
I don’t see how it can be offensive to English people. It’s such a caricature. It’s so “duuuuude awesome”. I’ve never met someone in my whole life that’s like that song, so it has no social
Connotations. It’s like finding Uzbeki flute music offensive.
corpsey, luka, behave yourselves. the death march aspect of dubstep was the only good thing about it. in fact when deep mellow housier dubstep started becoming a thing as a counterweight to wobble, that spelled the beginning of the end.
anyway thought we'd established that blackdown killed dubstep. it was going through its avant-prole reclamation, and instead of bugging his producers to go full 93-94 darkside, he railed against the wobble direction, like a true middle class dance music hipster. so the wobble scenistors were forced to go happy hardcore. a lesson we should all learn from.
sadmanbarty
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the "she doesn't know who i am" lyrics speaks to a peculiarly american traumatising high school politics. all cliques and social hierarchies that don't exist in the rest of the world. unless that's all just made up for films?
but yeah the problem with Joy O is there is too much joy. bucketloads of it, but it's pastiche joy. It's the energy flash for many of the post-90s generation, but the feel good mixmag house version of it, not mindfuck darkside droning swarming killer bea synths. in that regard blissbloggers generation was better, they weren't doing so much E, more acid as well.
that's the real problem with it
it's like the ravers who said hardcore was not good after mid 92
when in fact that's when it was going to enter its best phase
that's the real problem with it
it's like the ravers who said hardcore was not good after mid 92
when in fact that's when it was going to enter its best phase
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sadmanbarty
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in school there was a boy who routinely said that the river's of blood speach was correct and yet all his mates were africans. every single one of them. even racists can't be in cliques in english schools.
they can, outside of London they def can. london is quite unique in that regard.
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Corpsey
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I liked the dubstep rhythm (natch) but with hyph mango it seemed like a bad match for the "joyful" synths. Martyn I thought was a great producer for having dubstep bottom end with more soulful mid/top - but of course he used these rich, crackly samples rather than thin reedy square waves.
Of course teenage Corpsey was a Pendulum fan
luka
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I've always liked this one. Still play it every now and then.
sadmanbarty
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when i saw tea posted this i thought to myself "if luke says he doesn't like this i know his whole anti-rockism is a put on. an affectation." and low and behold you liked it.
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Corpsey
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me and my school friends were gonna do a playback version of a song by the offspring at the grand festivities closing the school before all of us would go to high school. they took us off the list because the word "fuck" was in the lyrics.
Joni Mitchell?