sufi

lala
school leavers can't find anything to watch on telly cos it's all made by and for graduates who are culturally incompatible
Nick was one of the first and most avid reactionary Guardianistos
 

luka

Well-known member
school leavers can't find anything to watch on telly cos it's all made by and for graduates who are culturally incompatible
Nick was one of the first and most avid reactionary Guardianistos

i'll take that as a no!
 

constant escape

winter withered, warm
In trying to view that in a positive/beneficent light, I think I can begin to see how it really isn't asking much for people to start using a new word, all things considered. But viewing it in that light required a serious bend and twist ideologically, from my previous position wherefrom I made that jab at it - a position that seems to me, from this other position, to be somewhat inconsiderate. Edit: Not saying one is better than the other, although the latter would definitely consider itself better than the former.

But when I switch back to it, it (re)becomes clear that "womxn", in that tweet, is a farcical signaling of virtue. In other cases, perhaps, it may be reflective, somehow, of a highly-deliberated and inclusive consensus.

Is there a way that inclusive sentiment can be expressed in a way that doesn't come across as ridiculous - even if such interpretation is partially the result of inconsideration? Perhaps part of it is how pious that tweet can come across as being.

Similar points have been made, perhaps even here, about "latinx". That is, that it is a term that is disregarded by, if not virtually unknown to, most latin american immigrants to the US, while being embraced by upper-middle class students more versed in the language and sensibilities of intersectionality and cultural revisionism.

I don't mean to put anyone on the spot, but can anyone attest to the impact of these words? Can it really amount to something larger than a shift in letters?
 

luka

Well-known member
It's not organic though. Who decides? And why do they think they can impose it on us? Weird isn't it? How does it work?
 

constant escape

winter withered, warm
Well it seems like academics decide. Maybe I can only speak for myself, but I love spewing out neologisms and forcibly plastering them into peoples vocabularies. Kidding, kidding.
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
But when I switch back to it, it (re)becomes clear that "womxn", in that tweet, is a farcical signaling of virtue.
It's also saying that the category of "woman" needs to be enlarged, modified or replaced to include transwomen - implying that transwomen aren't actually women. Which isn't very woke at all.
 

constant escape

winter withered, warm
But that is the kind of ideological pivoting I'm always talking about. Almost instantaneously being able to agree with both sides of a given conflict. The more passionate the conflict, the more difficult the pivoting.

As opposed to feeling what you feel, and wanting what you feel to be right.
 

constant escape

winter withered, warm
It's also saying that the category of "woman" needs to be enlarged, modified or replaced to include transwomen - implying that transwomen aren't actually women. Which isn't very woke at all.
One of the things that strikes me most about this is the conflicted approach to labels, namely that issuing a new label just creates a new sphere with new margins, and thus marginalization is a fractal and perpetual effect/result of labels/categories.

For instance, here, I;m sure there are humans out there who were born into an identifiably male body, got some kind of surgery to render their body more identifiably female, but still feel trepidations about identifying themselves at female. To them, being lumped into the category of "women" might be awkward. Perhaps, to them, "womxn" is a refreshingly clean slate.
 

entertainment

Well-known member
It's also saying that the category of "woman" needs to be enlarged, modified or replaced to include transwomen - implying that transwomen aren't actually women. Which isn't very woke at all.

I noticed they dodged this by using 'explicitly' in the tweet
 

Leo

Well-known member
do you guys see much of the "he/him", "she/her" and "they/them" in email signatures over there? still a minority here, but a fair number of my work contacts have started doing it this summer.
 

sus

Moderator
in the New York artworld (at least among admin/gallery/nonprofit types) it's become quasi-mandatory, my partner works in the field
 
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