IdleRich

IdleRich
We made one already it's called escape to victory
Yeah amazing film... except it's not the euros, it's the world*. Although Europe is becoming more and more dominant I'd say.
*the error is in the question not the answer though.
 

WashYourHands

Cat Malogen
Cricket’s really growing on me, sorry Dad. Have been to Trent Bridge for days out, but they were really excuses for marathon booze sessions. Didn’t even know the fuckin rules, beyond the obvious.

Ben Stokes smashing runs i understand isn’t stodgy Boycott era blocking, but easily one of the finest games of anything these eyes have seen. Prompted me to watch this. Outstanding

 

padraig (u.s.)

a monkey that will go ape
Last two champions played a markedly more traditional style
analytics are here to stay. I think ppl discovered with the Rockets that there's such a thing as optimizing shot selection too much - or rather constructing your roster to optimize shot selection at the expense of other things - but until there's a rule change disincentivizing them 3s/foul shots will continue to predominate just like HRs and strikeouts in baseball.

it's not the main reason I stopped following the NBA, anyway. the only person I find truly unwatchable is Harden himself. the NBA is always a mixed bag in terms of watchability. the offseason drama is irritating but not a dealbreaker. I'm certainly not against guys choosing their own teams. it's not like management choosing them is morally preferable. the main problem which is insurmountable is that I can no longer separate the game itself from watching millionaires working for billionaires play a pointless game - as I said I watch a game and think, why I am devoting part of my limited time on Earth to watching this.

I haven't been a fan of the Bulls or any team since childhood, btw. I was converted to Freedarko-style liberated fandom back in the late 00s.
 
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the famous image of Andy Hampsten, only American ever to win the Giro D'Italia, on the Gavia in '88

one of his teammates had to be helped off his bike at the finish line because he was almost entirely snow-blind

fuck. good photo that

Reminds me of a time i got caught in a blizzard in chicago half way between my mates house and my own. and when i got to his door he was like "fuuuuck duuuude" cos my face was whipped red, i got in and had the shakes for a good ten mins
 
ive probably mentioned that twelve times on here already and im sorry. it isnt even a good story. it just imprints on you very hard when youre so ver very very cold. your body remembers, try not be this cold ever again please
 

Leo

Well-known member
It is great to play. One of the few (only?) team sports that can be satisfying by yourself. shooting hoops used to be my entire exercise regimen.

shot hoops in our driveway for hours as a kid. what's also great is you can play half-court games with whatever you have: one on one, two on two. I think three on three half court is my fav, makes for better passing. when I was in high school, we'd play three on three games on a court at a park nearby a couple of nights a week in the summer.
 

padraig (u.s.)

a monkey that will go ape
a time i got caught in a blizzard in chicago half way between my mates house and my own
when was this? if it was in the last few years I was probably here for that blizzard

I have ridden through a hundred Chicago (and Philly, and a few other cities) snowstorms. thru all imaginable weather. talk about cold, the fucking polar vortex. I knew a guy who had most of a pinky amputated cos he rode through part of that without gloves like an idiot.

I have a pretty excellent picture taken by an ex-gf after riding home thru a particularly gnarly one a few years ago when I had an enormous beard, frosted in rime like Shackleton

every veteran courier eventually acquires polarized ski goggles. you only really need them a couple times each winter but when you need them you really need them.
 
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padraig (u.s.)

a monkey that will go ape
as I said I watch a game and think, why I am devoting part of my limited time on Earth to watching this
I do continue, admittedly, to watch combat sports semi-regularly - essentially when there's a compelling fight and I have time - and I'll probably continue paying attention to cycling when the next season start

not claiming it's a totally consistent moral position, but those are both sports where beneath the top layer - which is still mostly peanuts compared to NBA, NFL, MLB - many athletes are performing quite dangerous labor for insufficient compensation with either very weak (cycling) or no (MMA) union representation and I suppose I feel less gross rooting for people to overcome those conditions. and I have personal experience in both. both sports are knee-deep in relationships with hideous authoritarian regimes and corporate entities, but then so is the NBA (and every professional sports league). as I said, not a morally consistent position, just how I feel.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
Cricket’s really growing on me, sorry Dad. Have been to Trent Bridge for days out, but they were really excuses for marathon booze sessions. Didn’t even know the fuckin rules, beyond the obvious.

Ben Stokes smashing runs i understand isn’t stodgy Boycott era blocking, but easily one of the finest games of anything these eyes have seen. Prompted me to watch this. Outstanding

I kinda have a grudging admiration for Boycott's will to win though... or at least will to not get out.
 

Leo

Well-known member
lebron is closest to a cultural figure, he's occasionally been outspoken on social issues.
 

linebaugh

Well-known member
analytics are here to stay. I think ppl discovered with the Rockets that there's such a thing as optimizing shot selection too much - or rather constructing your roster to optimize shot selection at the expense of other things - but until there's a rule change disincentivizing them 3s/foul shots will continue to predominate just like HRs and strikeouts in baseball.

it's not the main reason I stopped following the NBA, anyway. the only person I find truly unwatchable is Harden himself. the NBA is always a mixed bag in terms of watchability. the offseason drama is irritating but not a dealbreaker. I'm certainly not against guys choosing their own teams. it's not like management choosing them is morally preferable. the main problem which is insurmountable is that I can no longer separate the game itself from watching millionaires working for billionaires play a pointless game - as I said I watch a game and think, why I am devoting part of my limited time on Earth to watching this.

I haven't been a fan of the Bulls or any team since childhood, btw. I was converted to Freedarko-style liberated fandom back in the late 00s.
I'm not saying analytics are gone, just the end of rockets style fetishization.

I get what you mean with the morality. I used to keep up with both baseball and football but haven't in years for similar reasons. feels a little too cozy with problems outside of sport. not that basketball is better of course, but as you said its not a consistent position I take. (surely american football culture has got to be the worst across all major american sports though)
 

Leo

Well-known member
remember when china bitchslapped the NBA when the rockets GM spoke out in a tweet about Hong Kong?
 

padraig (u.s.)

a monkey that will go ape
lebron is closest to a cultural figure, he's occasionally been outspoken on social issues
this generation is certainly preferable to MJ's "Republicans buy sneakers too"

tho it's undercut pretty by hard the fact that the NBA does business with China like anyone - Lebron in particular was quite disappointing during the NBA's stop-start light speed flight away from Daryl Morey's quite pro-HK democracy Tweet, he went out of his way to say Morey had been "misinformed" about the situation

and all the other various gross connections both the league and individual owners have that I'm 100% sure I could dig up with 10 minutes of googling
 

padraig (u.s.)

a monkey that will go ape
It was back in 2007. you have to share the picture now padraig. also, how do you type so fast!
nah I wasn't here in 2007. and sorry, I have a no pictures rule here.

also sometimes I type two comments at once and just post them b2b, that's how
 

linebaugh

Well-known member
Apparently the majority conservative owners in the league were major cause for the brief lock out that happened during the playoffs. Obama of all people was the one that got them to return to play -because of course he's a strike breaker- with word that many, Lebron included, were ready to end the season outright. I thought return was a lame move at first but in retrospective forcing owners to turn stadiums into voting stations is as much as we can reasonably expect from professional athletes. Hawks stadium processed 40k votes in a swing state.
 
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