a lot of thinking posits on this idea that we vote and then we can move people to the left or to say radical things. Incidentally k-punk and @shiels biggest error - a detestable habit to consider separately culture from the feeding of the stomach - I.E: culture does not ever need to express the truth about itself so long as it rationalises post-hoc, @luka is write that in a rave context that a lot of it relies on running with bogus mythology. The left is no exception, as an authentocrat British culture - hence why Joe Muggs is able to claim post-punk is uniquely English, something Mark also bought into. But the actual economic conditions in their totality are not considered. The parties are given some kind of theological will to speak truth to power, rather than mundane cogs in the state machine. This is an interesting grounds for analysis but last time I tried to make it temper tantrum ensued - I know it's not a game, I'm precisely asking you to throw away the monopoly set. Then what? Either you become a believer in politics, in which case you just invert the game, don't subvert it, or you penetrate deeper. And to become a believer in politics just secularises traditional religiosity. Instead of salvation being in the celestial spheres salvation is sought in the profane. In which case, you cannot claim to oppose tradition.
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