Do we really want out?

[Murphy]

the real sound of Glasgow - not the Sub Club or The Arches or whatever - is donk and bouncey house, that's what you hear blasting out of cars and in high street clubs at 3am

The licensing laws put a scundered full stop on venues, but part of the charm with Glasgow has been its all back to whoever’s where you could sofa roll with so many randoms. Not ideal, but different dynamics, sometimes more intimate in a profound way (aka the after party).

Sub with Harri, for a short period, was immense. Pure in Edinburgh was solid competition for madness

Harri - Subculture - A House Music Experience

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[woops]

everyone in glasgow lives in a gigantic house. living rooms bigger than a whole london flat.

 

[boxedjoy]

I have made so many one-night best friends thanks to afterparties. So many people who've spilled their guts to me and told me all kinds of deep and important things that I'll probably never see again. It's great.

 

[shiels]

everyone in glasgow lives in a gigantic house. living rooms bigger than a whole london flat.

beautiful red sand stone and massive doors and high ceilings and here he is fucking whining

 

[Simon silverdollarcircle]

I'm sure someone has written a mini-thesis here years ago about how the relative importance of the reggae influence declines as you go further north, i.e. further from London and Bristol.

The whole northern bleep and bass thing was linked to dub I think? Simon Reynolds said so anyway

 

[Simon silverdollarcircle]

I have made so many one-night best friends thanks to afterparties. So many people who've spilled their guts to me and told me all kinds of deep and important things that I'll probably never see again. It's great.

I made all my best friends at after parties. We'd spend weekend after weekend chatting shit to each other for about 40 hours solid.

I miss those days but they're still my best friends. And also it drives you mental after a few years i found

 

[luka]

I've never been to an after party so I reckon they must be awful

 

[luka]

I would never talk to a stranger let alone go back to theirs to get date raped or have my kidney stolen. No way hozay.

 

[Simon silverdollarcircle]

I've never been to an after party so I reckon they must be awful

You'd like them I promise. It's mainly sitting round on sofas doing psychedelics. I would argue that you have hosted your own after parties just without them being branded as such.

 

[Simon silverdollarcircle]

You always get one nutter at an afters that everyone tries to avoid tho. That's fun. Like someone trying to talk to anyone within earshot that they've invented their own currency or whatever. One time a bunch of Swedish girls thought it was essential to smash all the plates in the flat. With knives.

 

[Simon silverdollarcircle]

The more I think about it the more I'm convinced that dissensus essentially functions as an after party that has been going for 15+ years

 

[shiels]

I think a possibly obvious point to make
Is that rave culture can be understood as a strange attractor and a gateway drug and catalyst rather than something with any inherent utopian properties beyond the aesthetic. Is that an obvious point to make?

 

[shiels]

Do you agree - not that I have used the phrase strange attractor! mathematics

 

[version]

I have made so many one-night best friends thanks to afterparties. So many people who've spilled their guts to me and told me all kinds of deep and important things that I'll probably never see again. It's great.

Sometimes it's easier to open up to strangers precisely because of that lack of attachment and the unlikelihood of seeing them again.

 

[version]

I think a possibly obvious point to make
Is that rave culture can be understood as a strange attractor and a gateway drug and catalyst rather than something with any inherent utopian properties beyond the aesthetic. Is that an obvious point to make?

A gateway to what?

 

[Simon silverdollarcircle]

Do you agree - not that I have used the phrase strange attractor! mathematics

I do yep. I guess the thing that rave did and can still do is very quickly show you- much of what you were told, and taught, and thought was wrong. But what you do with that revelation is up to you innit. People go all sorts of different ways

 

[john eden]

The whole northern bleep and bass thing was linked to dub I think? Simon Reynolds said so anyway

Yep and there is a direct link with acts like Ital Rockers which included Mark from Iration Steppas. Richard Kirk big on dub. Nightmares on Wax proper dubby.

 

[shiels]

lots of things. any subculture accelerates and amplifies in that way but electronic music + drugs is especially void, abstract and kaleidoscopic

 

[luka]

I think a possibly obvious point to make
Is that rave culture can be understood as a strange attractor and a gateway drug and catalyst rather than something with any inherent utopian properties beyond the aesthetic. Is that an obvious point to make?

I don't understand it can you explain it

 

[shiels]

Does that last post help?