william_kent
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pretty much what my research has concluded
fucking hate weed bores, just as bad as those wine buffs
fucking hate weed bores, just as bad as those wine buffs
spiral tribe - the good bits
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william_kent
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fucking hate weed dealers
i'm not a fan of decriminalisation or legalisation because it it'll result in more expensive and and shittier weed, but i hate being at the mercy of some dude, and if i could just pop out to the corner shop and buy my skunk and be home in 5 minutes then i'd be happy, but no, have to sit there and listen to their shit and then skin up and waste my weed with some stoner, etc...
full disclosure; used to deal hash on "behalf" of someone else and honestly, I'd think don't skin up, just stick it in your pocket and get the fuck out...but that's just me
luka
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at least it used to get me out the house. it gives the day some shape. a mission. how do i get weed today? right, ive called up everyone and it seems like today i have to travel an hour across town and wait outside an estate on a specific wall at midnight for a man in a velour tracksuit
william_kent
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i'm lazy, it's two flights down the stairs and then i've scored
still
actually he'll give me a pipe of DMT so why am I moaning?
not going to get that at the corner shop am i?
craner
Beast of Burden
It's going to be hard, I'm not going to lie
IdleRich
IdleRich
Isn't this a scene from Pineapple Express?
Mr. Naga Pickle
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i mostly experienced the freeparty thing from a distance (had maybe the best night of my life at a spirals party held
at prague's cibulka, helped out with one of their shows in the US), but having been heavily into the crusty/squatter thing prior
to becoming obsessed with dance music, it spoke to me in a way no other rave subculture did.
liked their aesthetic, thought Network 23 was a pretty good label, and loved a lot of the music i associated with the
scene (90s frenchcore + breakcore, mostly), tho i agree that most of the actual Spiral Tribe branded stuff is almost
comically bad, especially this recentish "reunion" release:
here are a couple of my favorite ketno junts:
this mix was also big for me, once upon a time:
always thought explore toi had a uniquely schizophrenic energy i've never seen elsewhere in dance:
www.discogs.com
venerable SFO crew who still do good work, and don't receive half the credit they deserve:
at prague's cibulka, helped out with one of their shows in the US), but having been heavily into the crusty/squatter thing prior
to becoming obsessed with dance music, it spoke to me in a way no other rave subculture did.
liked their aesthetic, thought Network 23 was a pretty good label, and loved a lot of the music i associated with the
scene (90s frenchcore + breakcore, mostly), tho i agree that most of the actual Spiral Tribe branded stuff is almost
comically bad, especially this recentish "reunion" release:
here are a couple of my favorite ketno junts:
this mix was also big for me, once upon a time:
always thought explore toi had a uniquely schizophrenic energy i've never seen elsewhere in dance:
Explore Toi
Explore the discography of Explore Toi. Shop for vinyl, CDs, and more from Explore Toi on Discogs.
www.discogs.com
venerable SFO crew who still do good work, and don't receive half the credit they deserve:
WashYourHands
Cat Malogen
Any British folks who genuinely pushed it live/free are as stated BWPT and Ugly Funk (oy oy Grant), Esther Ofei, Ibrahim Alfa, M Hawkins of Marquis Hawkes largesse who can blend/mix as well as anyone (as long as he doesn’t play the shit house he’s been punting recently), through to Subhead
Narrow band. Single release I own is a ST Killing Joke remix, won’t post it cos it’s garbage. No disrespect to DS but not my groove, a large swathe of too many ketamine-rinsing hangers on and after Yugoslavia it became a nihilistic cliche. Hard to see past the Control irony, complete clique overkill to point of satire:
1. baseball cap askew at an upward 45 degree angle, a tribe signal from “Czech” to Grimsby
2. polo nostriled, “need any K, bruv?” or “got any K, bruv?”, the latter “on tick?!”
3. combat trousers, boots, puffa jacket/assorted techno regalia, bic-shaven now overgrown hair or dreads or both, chain key ring assortments so k-holes don’t end up with lost personal items only for this entire scheme to disintegrate on day 2
4. one dog for every 6 people
5. for every dog tons of k-holed victims soiling themselves crumpled sort of sway zombie dancing, stubbing a fag out on your arm while drool droning on about their ”vehicle”, or “Indian pharmacy K runs” or the semi-ubiquitous ”site”
Narrow band. Single release I own is a ST Killing Joke remix, won’t post it cos it’s garbage. No disrespect to DS but not my groove, a large swathe of too many ketamine-rinsing hangers on and after Yugoslavia it became a nihilistic cliche. Hard to see past the Control irony, complete clique overkill to point of satire:
1. baseball cap askew at an upward 45 degree angle, a tribe signal from “Czech” to Grimsby
2. polo nostriled, “need any K, bruv?” or “got any K, bruv?”, the latter “on tick?!”
3. combat trousers, boots, puffa jacket/assorted techno regalia, bic-shaven now overgrown hair or dreads or both, chain key ring assortments so k-holes don’t end up with lost personal items only for this entire scheme to disintegrate on day 2
4. one dog for every 6 people
5. for every dog tons of k-holed victims soiling themselves crumpled sort of sway zombie dancing, stubbing a fag out on your arm while drool droning on about their ”vehicle”, or “Indian pharmacy K runs” or the semi-ubiquitous ”site”
WashYourHands
Cat Malogen
Not to tangent too hard, heard this somewhere on a slope near Todmorden via Mr Hawkins and it’s a big rig monster
Yes. when Hawkins is on form he's one of the best techno djs of this country. no trance or ketno histrionics.
i mostly experienced the freeparty thing from a distance (had maybe the best night of my life at a spirals party held
at prague's cibulka, helped out with one of their shows in the US), but having been heavily into the crusty/squatter thing prior
to becoming obsessed with dance music, it spoke to me in a way no other rave subculture did.
liked their aesthetic, thought Network 23 was a pretty good label, and loved a lot of the music i associated with the
scene (90s frenchcore + breakcore, mostly), tho i agree that most of the actual Spiral Tribe branded stuff is almost
comically bad, especially this recentish "reunion" release:
here are a couple of my favorite ketno junts:
this mix was also big for me, once upon a time:
always thought explore toi had a uniquely schizophrenic energy i've never seen elsewhere in dance:
Explore Toi
Explore the discography of Explore Toi. Shop for vinyl, CDs, and more from Explore Toi on Discogs.
venerable SFO crew who still do good work, and don't receive half the credit they deserve:
The french gabber/speedcore stuff like notek is good, and explore toi as you say. All that 69 db stuff is just bog standard ketno to me. I mean, if you're going to go hardcore, push that aesthetic to its limit. the hacker under the xmf alias really did that.
XMF - Antimusic
Does what it says on the tin. The Hacker, prior to making electro. no ketno business
no-tek - System Cracked
Unrelenting speed gnosis, like Birmingham techno on the most evil acid trip this side of guantanamo. Makes all the ketno stuff sound like the cartoon plink plonk it is.
Mr. Naga Pickle
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those are incredible! had no idea XMF and The Hacker were the same person!
always felt as if ketno and noisecore had different intentions, despite often being
played at the same events. noisecore aspires to push boundaries, while ketno is
just bros having fun on drugs making music for bros to have fun on drugs to.
the best onket really does replicate the sensation of listening to tekno on ketamine
rather adequately. the heavy use of layering has been a big influence on
the way i produce, and not a thing i find much of in non-free party techno.
the sound design is often wonderfully spangled also, much like psycore, the
very finest raving music available in the universe today:
I don't really like ketamine. And ketheads can be quite insufferable to be around. I prefer full frontal lsd psychosis.
and psycore is obnoxious but funny bullshit imo. just psytrance sped up to 200 bpm, but with exactly the same traps as regular psytrance — off beat bassline, stupid plastic kicks, etc. Makes neurofunk and jump up look positively sophisticated in comparison. If they got rid of those trappings and had more classic 909s, some of the sound design could be interesting. But it's like that Simon Posford guy, he makes mad sounds but in the service of whimsy medieval hippie jig.
plz sort me out with a lossless copy of this.
have it on some mad chillin/energy fm tape, the bloke is totally fucked on god knows what, calling himself mr o mosley, sending out shouts to German tanya (deutschland uber ist als) banging on about James the Plonker, jazzy's totally pissed out of his head and is going to need an absolutely massive elvin. sending out shouts to Plastic head Tony and Sharon.
How it managed to get broadcast on the dial is anyone's guess.
Mr. Naga Pickle
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i've only done ketamine a couple of times. it's ok, though not at all conducive to dancing, and i find it strange that it's become so popular throughout the dance music universe.
psycore friggin PWNS. i've always hated psytrance, but cranked up to 200+ bpm, it ceases to be a dance music, and instead becomes simply a cool noise you can luxuriate in while munted. FABULOUS.
listening to uk/euro people shit on this kind of thing is always hilarious to me, as everything about it sounds like way more fun than literally anything you'd find in most of the US on any given saturday night
luka
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listening to uk/euro people shit on this kind of thing is always hilarious to me, as everything about it sounds like way more fun than literally anything you'd find in most of the US on any given saturday night
