IdleRich

IdleRich
well, there's me and one guy who used to work at Eastern Bloc who love this... in fact the ex-EB guy once said to me that he couldn't understand how the techno crew couldn't get down to the mbalax / sabar beats, but it's not dumbed down four to the floor so..make of that of what you will

there's a poster on this forum who hates to be tagged, so i'll respect his reticence, but l'll state that polyrhythm rules ... and when there are dubbed out hunt and peck keyboard synth lines overlaid over polyrhythms then I'm transported to a cosmic state.... but few ( less than I count on one hand ) people seem to appreciate the fusion of kosmiche and dub that I can hear
I think I'm thinking of the sane song, there was you described and the description made it sound ace... but when I listened to the tune it didn't sound like what I expected at all. The sounds didn't to me match the description - but that's almost certainly my ignorance. It was like it didn't click for me. But that can happen to me with any song. It doesn't have to be avant-garde or from another culture could be a ballad or something that sounds formless and baggy and dirgelike... but a few listens and you get it, it comes into focus, the tune emerges, the shape is suddenly there, you can't resist it, your mates are saying it's a dirge with no energy but you're laughing at em.

That doesn't always happen, but often enough for me to give things a couple of chances. Also, I'd say that if there are two tunes and one is all hooky and obvious on the first listen, but the other takes a while to get me - chances are it will be that one I rnd up listening too more in the long run.

So keep trying nan. If you got more that sound like that description then hit me please - not the previous one though, that was bobbins
 

william_kent

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as a rule u are a peice of fucken shit and suck my dick

a bit harsh

you got to understand that some people maybe have a bit too much "character armour" and their flow of chi is a bit blocked

I think I'm thinking of the sane song, there was you described and the description made it sound ace... but when I listened to the tune it didn't sound like what I expected at all. The sounds didn't to me match the description - but that's almost certainly my ignorance. It was like it didn't click for me. But that can happen to me with any song. It doesn't have to be avant-garde or from another culture could be a ballad or something that sounds formless and baggy and dirgelike... but a few listens and you get it, it comes into focus, the tune emerges, the shape is suddenly there, you can't resist it, your mates are saying it's a dirge with no energy but you're laughing at em.

That doesn't always happen, but often enough for me to give things a couple of chances. Also, I'd say that if there are two tunes and one is all hooky and obvious on the first listen, but the other takes a while to get me - chances are it will be that one I rnd up listening too more in the long run.

So keep trying nan. If you got more that sound like that description then hit me please - not the previous one though, that was bobbins


i was totally out of it when i typed that description, but there's a ghost of a sound that I can envisage and then I interpolate and in my imagination i can hear a fusion of polyrhythmic beats and koscmische synth dubbed up which is my ideal, but I've done enough mind altering substances to realise that not everyone is on the same frequency at the same time, and it's your loss... joke... the whole sudan thread is an example where i'm hearing a god given fusion of kosmiche synth vs dancehall riddim but anyone but me only hears rinky dink casio cheese over,,lame beats?
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
sorry to hear that. hope things improve for you soon.
Thanks mate. That's very kind. But total first wotld problems. It's just it's really quite rare for me to feel moody and so I'm dealing with it badly. But fucking hell, the very fact that it is rare for me to be in a bad mood is surely to be celebrated. I'm very lucky like that. Fucking airhead normally burbling fairly happily.
 

Mr. Naga Pickle

Well-known member
a bit harsh

you got to understand that some people maybe have a bit too much "character armour" and their flow of chi is a bit blocked
@luka is a nasty lil bitch who love it when u call him a piece of shit. if u ever see @luka in public
its totally alright 2 just whip it out and piss right in his fuckboy face. being urinated on and
abused is like his favorite thing in the whole entier mf world. fucked up lil dirty ass pussy ass hoe.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
a bit harsh

you got to understand that some people maybe have a bit too much "character armour" and their flow of chi is a bit blocked




i was totally out of it when i typed that description, but there's a ghost of a sound that I can envisage and then I interpolate and in my imagination i can hear a fusion of polyrhythmic beats and koscmische synth dubbed up which is my ideal, but I've done enough mind altering substances to realise that not everyone is on the same frequency at the same time, and it's your loss... joke... the whole sudan thread is an example where i'm hearing a god given fusion of kosmiche synth vs dancehall riddim but anyone but me only hears rinky dink casio cheese over,,lame beats?
I should say it wasn't so much the beat that underwhelmed as the synth.
 

william_kent

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oh...

imagine berlin electronics over this


faye family sabar

and then add echo

that's my headspace atm
( ostrich mode, for "reasons" )
 

william_kent

Well-known member
never mind the mbalax

it's all about the MDMA!

entertainment is what we do!

come follow me with the new stylee!

"I'll fill your world with X-T-C:"


Doncaster Warehouse 1992

what you gonna do when the policeman cum?

use your N-R-G man!

E----N----J----O ---Y

ENJOY!

N JOI DA MUSIK!

run , run, run, ragga, run, run, run
what you gonna do when the C I D cum?

put away your knife and putta way you gun!

EEEEE -ZEEEE!
Notintghmam Krew!

better put away your gun!

maybe one of the best 1992 rave clips EVER

(well maybe for the first 15 minutes )


approx 7:20 the steroid freak FULLY comes up for the first time - he just can't believe the rush - precious, especially when juxtaposed next to the dungaree ponytailed mime guy, balearic confusion , I suppose the millennials would call this "cognitive dissonance", I call this rushing off your fucking tits!

edit: or at 5;08 steroid man is coming up and gurns for the UK, maybe time to get a glass of water?

priceless..

can't control the rush!

I once showed this to a former work colleague and she was pretty adamant about how, if she had been there, she would have pushed the gurning speed freak off the stage ( the pate tate lookalike, the essex boy murders were a few years away) (at10:35 or 13:00, centre stage - yeah, he's not got the bulk, but facial structure is similar, anyway my work mate would have shoved him off stage for sure )

edit: only been to Donnie the one time, an ill fated free festival, our convoy was on the opposite side of the road to Max and the Brew Crew who we passed as they were heading in the opposite direction on their way to being arrested in Rochdale -- there was some confusion about where the free festival was supposed to have been that weekend

COME FOLLOW
COME FOLLOW
COME FOLLOW ME
COME FOLLOW
COME FOLLOW
COME FOLLOW WITH DA E-ZEE- DEE!


edit: all shout out to Nottingham Crew! seriously doubting the YouTube attribution, to be honest my first search term was "shelley's MDMA" but I had to settle upon "doncaster warehouse" to get this clip, which is the one I craved
 

catalog

Well-known member
Re biases against African musics...

As I understand it, there is almost a hard coded prejudice baked into the forum, whereby the dispalced/migratory forms of black music are priveleaged.

So we've got Jamaica as the ur-site, over and above everything else.

And close behind, possibly even at the side of Jamaica, we have the bias towards the migrations from Jamaica and the rest of the Caribbean into America and the UK. And the resulting clash of those migrations into the host countries.

I mean, I like Fela as much as the next man, but you'll never convince me that the entire continent of Africa can ever produce anything as good as this

 

thirdform

pass the sick bucket
Re biases against African musics...

As I understand it, there is almost a hard coded prejudice baked into the forum, whereby the dispalced/migratory forms of black music are priveleaged.

So we've got Jamaica as the ur-site, over and above everything else.

And close behind, possibly even at the side of Jamaica, we have the bias towards the migrations from Jamaica and the rest of the Caribbean into America and the UK. And the resulting clash of those migrations into the host countries.

I mean, I like Fela as much as the next man, but you'll never convince me that the entire continent of Africa can ever produce anything as good as this


Funnily enough ray keith is from Mauritius. his ancestors probably south Asian migration and then mixed with the locals.
 

thirdform

pass the sick bucket
never understood why mbalax hasn't become popular outside of west africa in the way that, say, amapiano or singeli or shangaan electro have.
it's fast and banging and frequently features impassioned vocals and psychedelic guitars and synths and stuff. seems like exactly the kind of thing footwork and ambient jungle likers would rush to embrace, yet i've never met a single non senegalese person who's been into it :(

too islamic, you hang out in the wrong imperialist circles.
 

catalog

Well-known member
Funnily enough ray keith is from Mauritius. his ancestors probably south Asian migration and then mixed with the locals.
That is interesting but you can flex my initial argument very easily to accommodate it ie the crucible is UK and that remains essential.
 
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