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I tried to get the Leeds kids into some of the dark, cold and hard trance of 92-94 a few years ago. they weren't having any of it really.

Protect System - Arachnophobia

proper Belgian gloomcore that one.

even more goth rave

D-Trax - Atomic
 
dilbert1

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gremino said:
Interesting thing is that Gen-Z have taken the term breakcore for themselves, and use it for this PS1 aesthetics internet jungle. Just imagine how embarassing it would be to go tell them "achhhssctually, breakcore is made by producers like Alec Empire and Shitmat".

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A lot of these playlists have emotionally disturbed titles. “Depressive breakcore mix,” “breakcore mix to forget/dissociate/die/build false hopes to,” “ruined childhood breakcore mix” “breakcore mix so you’re motivated and don’t think about that bitch” and so on.

Deep Blue and Tokyopill seem to be some of the bigger artists with an extremely dark emo/anime aesthetic. The comment sections can be quite harrowing. Unemployment, isolation, self-harm, drug and alcohol abuse, staying in bed all day etc. are commonly discussed. For example:

Honestly, the fact I do exist is a lot more scary to me than not existing. Time is really passing by, every action and mistake really does echo on into infinity, and I'm really going to die. Somedays I wish nothing was real. I wish that nothing matters, that time would stop and I simply didn't exist. But I do exist, time is ticking and I have an impact on this reality wether want to or not. Even if I never existed, my abscence would still change the world.
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Joke’s on me for starting that “sad/depressing jungle” thread a while ago, its a full-blown genre now
 
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There is obviously parallels between the depression breakcore stuff and "corecore" largely being about the tyranny of online life and needing escape

But there are whole swathes of the tiktok stuff that remain impenetrable to me, guess I'm not online enough for it
 
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IdleRich

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I think the one that's got that line, I know a girl called elsa, she's into alka seltzer, is the good one
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They did that one that says "so Sally can wait..." and I was going out with this girl called Sally and she used to play it and I hated it.
 
IdleRich

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blissblogger said:
Well it's not like they've haven't been exposed to all that - Miles Davis and so forth. But it's all been water off a duck's back. Completely impervious to it, they are.

When they were really little and I was doing lot of childcare, I would be playing electronic avant stuff, Stockhausen, Ligeti etc and they didn't object, it didn't seem to bother them at all. But nor does it appear to have laid down a bedrock of avant-susceptibility in their tender impressionable psyches.


Another thing I used to do was play in their vicinity things like Steeleye Span's "The Blacksmith" . The idea was to awaken English race-memory and stave off the overwhelming influence of growing up in America. I imagined that the keening immemorial lament of Maddy Prior would pierce their tiny souls and plant a small seed. Britfolk, and maybe UK comedy, would inoculate, against the surrounding culture. But It doesn't seem to have had any effect, they are American through and through. (Although the youngest does love The Detectorists).
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Sorry to derail but do they identify as American? Guess they speak with local accents... are you NY? I assume they the full Brooklyn thing? And they say you speak with a British accent... or have you lost that?
 
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IdleRich said:
Sorry to derail but do they identify as American? Guess they speak with local accents... are you NY? I assume they the full Brooklyn thing? And they say you speak with a British accent... or have you lost that?
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They speak totally American - non-regional, not with a local NYC inflection (i think that heavy Brooklyn or Bronx accent is dying out really). They grew up in NYC but we have been in LA for 13 years now. There is actually a sort of Californian accent - hard to describe, in men it makes you sound slightly fey. Like a 'new man' maybe would be a better way of putting it. But they haven't picked up that voice really. The youngest a bit. There's a sort of low-key, flattened-affect kind of speech pattern, fast spoken but unslurred. Very precise, non-drawling.

I think I still sound British but probably certain vowel sounds ring out in a way that would be grating to an English ear. They'd be able to tell I'd been living overseas. But I've kept it pretty well - probably a combo of stubbornness and working at home on my own (whereas my brother who's been living here as long and worked in offices, he's gone totally mid-Atlantic).

You do find yourself adjusting your pronunciation just to make life easier. So for instance, if you say "water" in the British way (wooortah - rhyming with daughter), Americans seem to find this incomprehensible. So you learn to say wah-trrr when you want a glass of wooortah. The American way, it's a completely different initial vowel sound and the last three letters of water kind of trail off, half-swallowed.

There's loads of others. If I said butter in the ordinary English way with the glottal stop (buh-er), I'd get nowhere, so it has to be budderrrrr.
 
WashYourHands

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blissblogger said:
They speak totally American - non-regional, not with a local NYC inflection (i think that heavy Brooklyn or Bronx accent is dying out really). They grew up in NYC but we have been in LA for 13 years now. There is actually a sort of Californian accent - hard to describe, in men it makes you sound slightly fey. Like a 'new man' maybe would be a better way of putting it. But they haven't picked up that voice really. The youngest a bit. There's a sort of low-key, flattened-affect kind of speech pattern, fast spoken but unslurred. Very precise, non-drawling.

I think I still sound British but probably certain vowel sounds ring out in a way that would be grating to an English ear. They'd be able to tell I'd been living overseas. But I've kept it pretty well - probably a combo of stubbornness and working at home on my own (whereas my brother who's been living here as long and worked in offices, he's gone totally mid-Atlantic).

You do find yourself adjusting your pronunciation just to make life easier. So for instance, if you say "water" in the British way (wooortah - rhyming with daughter), Americans seem to find this incomprehensible. So you learn to say wah-trrr when you want a glass of wooortah. The American way, it's a completely different initial vowel sound and the last three letters of water kind of trail off, half-swallowed.

There's loads of others. If I said butter in the ordinary English way with the glottal stop (buh-er), I'd get nowhere, so it has to be budderrrrr.
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Philly bases parts of its collective identity on the pronunciation of water

sounds more like wooder, north meets south in a mid-Atlantic melting pot
 
Mr. Naga Pickle

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gremino said:
Interesting thing is that Gen-Z have taken the term breakcore for themselves, and use it for this PS1 aesthetics internet jungle. Just imagine how embarassing it would be to go tell them "achhhssctually, breakcore is made by producers like Alec Empire and Shitmat".

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I would not be embarassed 2 do this at all and think that it would b rly cool :devilish:
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entertainment

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dilbert1 said:
A lot of these playlists have emotionally disturbed titles. “Depressive breakcore mix,” “breakcore mix to forget/dissociate/die/build false hopes to,” “ruined childhood breakcore mix” “breakcore mix so you’re motivated and don’t think about that bitch” and so on.
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i get the feeling a lot of alternative music today is inherently depressive. like it's been burned into people's brains that this is what alternative culture is about: being non-popular, weird, socially anxious, depressed, music as a way to articulate and find solace in this defining cultural position.

walking about london this week, going to trendy restaurants and cafés i noticed that many of them played exclusively alternative music from the 00's and early 10's. the feeling i got wasn't a normal nostalgia but a sort of prelapsarian longing. this sense that anything alternative after 2015 bears the trace of a tragic consciousness. an impossibility of making alternative music (that is to say music that isn't consciously fake) that doesn't reflect the terminally despairing awareness of the contemporary psychology.
 
luka

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i remember being 12 or so and being ideologically opposed to nirvana for this reason. trying to make it cool to be a sadsack. why would you want to be a droopy sad sack? couldnt get my head around it.
 
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