The energy core of incel or shit feminism is the projection or disavowal of romantic rejection … the universalisation of personal pain
 

malelesbian

Femboyism IS feminism.
Listen, if there's one thing I know, it's that, if a guy is telling you directly "I'm not a reductionist" and you still argue he's a reductionist, then you're attacking a straw man. Please no strawman arguments. Do any of you who believe I'm a reductionist actually have an argument for why a non-reductive version of my view would fail?
 

malelesbian

Femboyism IS feminism.
The energy core of incel or shit feminism is the projection or disavowal of romantic rejection … the universalisation of personal pain
I'd say that's a correct characterization of incels, but I'm trying to use love to reach incels. I promote feminine culture, a feminist alternative to incel culture. My question is, how do we get incels to re-direct their pain to turn it against the patriarchy?
 
I think you’re right that it essentially comes down to the need for love, like everything does. And PUA / manosphere etc tries to train individuals to win it through techniques and provides a false sense of community … a proper community might provide opportunities for love beyond validation through sex/ Romance
 
I'd say that's a correct characterization of incels, but I'm trying to use love to reach incels. I promote feminine culture, a feminist alternative to incel culture. My question is, how do we get incels to re-direct their pain to turn it against the patriarchy?
Part of the problem in your current conception might the conflation of power or patriarchy with quite crass gender binaries. If you start on false binaries you’re on shaky ground to analyse the problem
 

malelesbian

Femboyism IS feminism.
Part of the problem in your current conception might the conflation of power or patriarchy with quite crass gender binaries. If you start on false binaries you’re on shaky ground to analyse the problem
The patriarchy is masculine culture, I don't see why anyone would deny that. I'm just reccomending that men represent an alternative to mainstream culture. What's the correct binary we should start on??

Also I agree that we should build communities that spread love. But where's the love or community in turning everything into a debate, to the point where you deny that male feminity can even help fight masculine individualism? Feminine culture is the culture of the community, that's why redpillers try to make everything about the individual, why they have a false community. They benefit from weakening communal bonds.
 

luka

Well-known member
also this board is 90% incel and you havent converted a single one of them yet so maybe the strategy needs tweaking
 
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