line b

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there's a pop punk thing going on in brooklyn. two friends have started seperate pop punk bands recently. i'm in a coffee shop in greenpoint and they're playing a whole blink 182 album. that retromania thing from a decade ago is still a thing i guess, how retro
Im not even sure its a retromania thing with the pop punk. On some level it is of course but I dont think we ever grew out of the blink 182 era. Rock music pretty much died at the pop punk phase and now that other genres are emo its been reanimated. But theres gotta be some type of progression past a thing to call its return retro ya?
 

line b

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When I was in highschool ten years ago the most popular rock band was blink 182, and at that point blink 182 had already been finished for ten years
 

line b

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Emo/pop punk feels like a final stage for anything because once its popular youre never going to get kids to be into anything else. Its like how in ancient china theyd intentionally close down the most succesful mines so the economy didnt become something beyond control
 

ghost

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East Village, I think it's just opened. Is there a word for this style yet? If not I'm calling it Dimescore

I can't put my finger on it but a lot of films I've seen recently have a related set of aesthetic coordinates.
To me, it's a little Pierre Yovanovitch, it's a little Joe Colombo, it's a little Memphis Revival, it's a little JW Anderson.

The overall conceit is the combination of the sculptural with shapes that feel novel, along with a not-quite-muted not-quite-pastel color palette.
 

ghost

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I think the closest documented aesthetic is what the CARI folks called "Austurbane":


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with a touch of Corporate Memphis:

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One interesting way to think about it though is that there's something that recalls the childhood media of the 90s and 00s—so-called "Wacky Pomo":

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It feels like there's a case to be made that Dimes is trying its best to emulate this 90s Taco Bell interior:

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Or this 90s McDonalds interior:
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shakahislop

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I think the closest documented aesthetic is what the CARI folks called "Austurbane":


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with a touch of Corporate Memphis:

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One interesting way to think about it though is that there's something that recalls the childhood media of the 90s and 00s—so-called "Wacky Pomo":

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It feels like there's a case to be made that Dimes is trying its best to emulate this 90s Taco Bell interior:

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Or this 90s McDonalds interior:
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yes these last two sections are exactly what that style of decor brings to mind for me, i just hadn't put my finger on it
 

line b

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what austurbane doesnt account for is that the look those cafe's are going for is a bit DIY. Its got a community center vibe- the ymca, the vfw. aa meeting in a mid century vaporwave purgatory. 90s fast food restraunt feels right
 

line b

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The entire town of marfa texas has this aesthetic. I think its in part a litteral municpal mandate. It works really well in the desert setting. Feels like your stepping into a place out of time.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
yes these last two sections are exactly what that style of decor brings to mind for me, i just hadn't put my finger on it

Those descriptions do seem amazingly apt. And "Corporate Memphis" is such an utterly fantastic (while at the same time being beyond horrible and depressing) name.

I think the closest documented aesthetic is what the CARI folks called "Austurbane":

What is CARI? Some kind of body for describing and naming particular aesthetics? Or is it a university/academy... or both I guess?
 

ghost

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It's a bunch of folks in a discord, they just try to separate out and name the aesthetics that make up the dominant commercial looks of different eras. They're a bit anal about the whole thing and it's really just a few people naming things well but it's remarkable mostly because nobody was really doing it much beforehand.
 

sus

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It's a bunch of folks in a discord, they just try to separate out and name the aesthetics that make up the dominant commercial looks of different eras. They're a bit anal about the whole thing and it's really just a few people naming things well but it's remarkable mostly because nobody was really doing it much beforehand.
I'm really salty because I'm pals with the guy who started it all but he wasn't allowed to let me in because it had bureaucratized. I need to stay on the cutting edge of aesthetic thingification. It's really important to me maintaining alpha as a cultural critic
 

sus

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Have you seen the TikTok trend forecasters? Emily Segal said she gave up entirely on written forecasting because the Zoomers on TikTok were so much better at it
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
It's a bunch of folks in a discord, they just try to separate out and name the aesthetics that make up the dominant commercial looks of different eras. They're a bit anal about the whole thing and it's really just a few people naming things well but it's remarkable mostly because nobody was really doing it much beforehand.

It sounds interesting, cos as you imply it feels as though someone should be doing it, or at least trying to. And yeah I guess it's not official or anything, but if it's gaining enough traction for you to quote it then it's moving in the direction of being kinda official.

More than that, their description was greeted with recognition by @shakahislop which tells me they are doing something right. As with many things life is too short for me to be the one, but the fact tha someone is making the effort to catalogue this is something I approve of - I will just be happy if I can remember their name and go to them when needed.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
I'm really salty because I'm pals with the guy who started it all but he wasn't allowed to let me in because it had bureaucratized. I need to stay on the cutting edge of aesthetic thingification. It's really important to me maintaining alpha as a cultural critic

I guess we have different, in fact diametrically opposite, views here. As I just said, I love that someone is doing this, but - despite the tug of the all but irresistible and impossibly seductive glamour involved in being one of those creators - I'm glad that some dweeb is doing all the actual work for the rest of us who can just use the handy system they have created.
 

Clinamenic

Binary & Tweed
I think the closest documented aesthetic is what the CARI folks called "Austurbane":


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with a touch of Corporate Memphis:

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One interesting way to think about it though is that there's something that recalls the childhood media of the 90s and 00s—so-called "Wacky Pomo":

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It feels like there's a case to be made that Dimes is trying its best to emulate this 90s Taco Bell interior:

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Or this 90s McDonalds interior:
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Actually my sister did product photography for a couple years, and “austurbane” very much aligns with her style. She’s 23 now.
 

shakahislop

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Some kind of events space in Soho that shopify are paying for, for reasons the guys in the place explained but which I didn't understand. It's big business and fancy shopping territory rather then BCM territory. But these slanted wooden branches are similar to what they have in Dimes, and also I think there were benches like this in that White Noise adaptation
 

shakahislop

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another thing from soho today, there's a certain poetry to it. this is houston st, which is one of the three big roads that runs from east to west / west to east downtown. as long as i can remember there's been this massive calvin klien ad on one this street, it's absolutely massive, the photo doesn't do it justice, it looms over you, and coz its calvin klein its always half naked men and women, there's something about it, it's like a massive fuck you, we can do what we want, we've got all the money. they change the picture quite often, a week ago it was kid cudi with his six pack out, now they've got whoever this is up there.

then on the same street a couple of minutes walk away there's this massive graff wall thats in a constant state of being repainted. i have no idea what's going on but so far as i can tell, there is someone who owns this wall and pays graff mural guys to do a massive mural on it, like of something boring like a motorbike or something. those seem to stay up for literally a few days before people start tagging over it low down within easy reach. then pretty quickly, i have no idea how they do it, someone else will totally cover the original mural with their own, which are always way better than the official ones. then that new mural gets covered in throwies etc.....and then at some point fairly quickly another official mural gets put up and the cycle repeats. it's been going on for ages but i think the cycle is turning over more and more quickly.
 
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