Slothrop

Tight but Polite
Although it doesn't have the same satisfying fall-and-rise arc as Dune, if that's what your mate likes about it. More just "everything's so fucked that getting impaled on a metal thorn tree by an incomprehensible god of death seems like a pretty good option". It's great, though.
 

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
I had seen that recommended but I read the first page of the kindle sample and thought it looked like toss. But perhaps I was too quick to judge.
 

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
Actually tell a lie I read the first SENTENCE and thought it looked like toss.

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But I think what put me off was "played Rachmaninov's Prelude in C-Sharp Minor", and I can see that perhaps there's a Ballardian thing going on here of juxtaposing something very specifically of our world with "great, green, saurian things". (Ala. the doctor sitting down to eat a german shepherd at the start of high rise.)
 

droid

Well-known member
Its a bit all over the place but its also one of the great sci-fi epics, with a major plot thread built around the life of Keats, of all things.
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
Actually tell a lie I read the first SENTENCE and thought it looked like toss.

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But I think what put me off was "played Rachmaninov's Prelude in C-Sharp Minor", and I can see that perhaps there's a Ballardian thing going on here of juxtaposing something very specifically of our world with "great, green, saurian things". (Ala. the doctor sitting down to eat a german shepherd at the start of high rise.)
TBF, Dune has the Baron Vladimir Harkonnen introduce himself to the reader by asking "Is it not a magnificent thing that I, the Baron Vladimir Harkonnen, do?" - while talking to characters who obviously know who he is (some guy he's employed for decades and his own nephew).
 

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
Yeah I've not read Dune either.

I guess I enjoyed Game of Thrones which is stylistically something of a dogs breakfast so perhaps it doesn't matter.

Cheers chums
 

mixed_biscuits

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Actually tell a lie I read the first SENTENCE and thought it looked like toss.

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But I think what put me off was "played Rachmaninov's Prelude in C-Sharp Minor", and I can see that perhaps there's a Ballardian thing going on here of juxtaposing something very specifically of our world with "great, green, saurian things". (Ala. the doctor sitting down to eat a german shepherd at the start of high rise.)
Yeah, that sentence is a heap of shit. A page is more than enough to get a sense of the author's style, just as talking to someone for 5 seconds is enough to realise you will find their voice even more annoying over 2 hours, and so you prefer to adopt someone else thank you very much.
 

mixed_biscuits

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TBF, Dune has the Baron Vladimir Harkonnen introduce himself to the reader by asking "Is it not a magnificent thing that I, the Baron Vladimir Harkonnen, do?" - while talking to characters who obviously know who he is (some guy he's employed for decades and his own nephew).
It's called exposition and it's for your benefit.
 

hmg

Victory lap
I quite liked the first one in the cinema but I feel so little inclination to rewatch it and I think it's that joylessness

There's no sense of camaraderie between characters and wanting to spend time with them, as there is in LOTR and MACTFSOTW

It's because they're all poshos or jihadists.
 

hmg

Victory lap
Some of the Iain M Banks Culture books are impressive imaginative feats. Matter comes to mind.
 

hmg

Victory lap
The Three-Body Problem by Liu Cixin
Children of Time and Children of Ruin by Adrian Tchaikovsky
Bronze Age Mindset
Dragon's Egg
by Robert L. Forward
Mars Trilogy by Kim Stanley Robinson
 
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