mixed_biscuits

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If people have their fingers in their ears and hands over their eyes, and they're behaving like, and have the immaturity level of, teenage edgelord trolls that can't take what they dish out, then there's not much you can do.
Oh, and a not insignificant portion of the population are one-issue abortion voters, evangelical christians, gun nuts, conspiracy indoctrinated fools (conspiracies about the left (satanic new world order globalists trying to usher in the apocalypse and prepare the earth for Satan's arrival etc etc. etc.) have been going around for many decades (q anon is just another iteration in a long tradition)), militia members, and/or a mix of all of those, and other reasons they will NEVER vote for a dem.
So you're basically the galaxy brains are unable to manipulate the Trumplodytes. That's what I said.
 

mixed_biscuits

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I think the doomy conspiracy theories are less widespread on the right. For instance, was there any of that in Rogan's Trump interview? It's just a lame excuse for not being able to manipulate the Trumplodytes.

Meanwhile, Democrat PR was saying is Hitler for the millionth time and Dems are so scared half of them want to leave the country!
 

0bleak

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Trust me, I live here and I've been to and spent time in several states in the bible belt where the shit is rampant.
I've circulated among the right, I've gone to their churches, and I've seen their conspiracy-filled propaganda pamphlets they hand out like candy.
 

0bleak

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and there wouldn't be popular radio and tv hosts like Alex Jones and Glenn Bleck and other-right wing conspiracy nuts making bank if the right didn't eat that shit eat up
 

mixed_biscuits

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and there wouldn't be popular radio and tv hosts like Alex Jones and Glenn Bleck and other-right wing conspiracy nuts making bank if the right didn't eat that shit eat up
You probably mention playground retorts because you're still in the process of learning to read. I said it's not as widespread, that it's not as central to their platform as Trump = Hitler is to the Democrats, not that it doesn't exist at all or is unpopular.
 

mixed_biscuits

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What with all the Trump = Hitler people don't realise that Trump is not especially right wing for a Republican president, and things like the American Academy plan is redolent of East European communist practice.
 

0bleak

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I like that somebody that doesn't even live here thinks they can tell me how central something is.
The fear-mongering "radical left socialist agenda" has been _central_ to the republican platform since at least Obama was president.
As a matter of fact, I don't think people on the right even think there is a left in this country anymore - just a "radical left".
This country has swung so much more to the right over the last several decades that there isn't even a real left, and anyone that is on the left is considered RADICAL.
 

0bleak

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It's funny for how much the right worships Reagan, even he would be considered RADICAL LEFT these days for some of his positions.
He would be a pariah in today's Republican party.
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
I like that somebody that doesn't even live here thinks they can tell me how central something is.
The fear-mongering "radical left socialist agenda" has been _central_ to the republican platform since at least Obama was president.
As a matter of fact, I don't think people on the right even think there is a left in this country anymore - just a "radical left".
This country has swung so much more to the right over the last several decades that there isn't even a real left, and anyone that is on the left is considered RADICAL.
And to the extent that a small minority of Americans actually can be considered radical leftists, in my experience they tend to hate the Democratic party at least as much as they hate the Republicans, and either don't vote or vote for one of the tiny irrelevant parties.
 

mixed_biscuits

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I like that somebody that doesn't even live here thinks they can tell me how central something is.
The fear-mongering "radical left socialist agenda" has been _central_ to the republican platform since at least Obama was president.
As a matter of fact, I don't think people on the right even think there is a left in this country anymore - just a "radical left".
This country has swung so much more to the right over the last several decades that there isn't even a real left, and anyone that is on the left is considered RADICAL.
The Dems post online, you know, and the UK has internet. They've been spending the last few years pretending that Trump = Hitler and that all his policies are fascist.

I mean, look at this nonsense:

 

mixed_biscuits

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Unless you define your terms this gabble about what is true left, true right blah blah just comes across political virtue signalling on your behalf in that you're presenting yourself as part of a dwindling band of echte leftists.
 

mixed_biscuits

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And to the extent that a small minority of Americans actually can be considered radical leftists, in my experience they tend to hate the Democratic party at least as much as they hate the Republicans, and either don't vote or vote for one of the tiny irrelevant parties.
The wokerati would qualify as radically left for rightists as their project is egalitarian at root and there's a fair few wokerati.
 

0bleak

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The Dems post online, you know, and the UK has internet.

There are things that completely slip by you with only being online.
You don't hear overhear remarks in different places that you don't get with being online in different bubbles.
You also, for example, don't see conspiracy literature that gets handed out at evangelical megachurches (basically Trump's base), or hear what is talked about among those groups. Lord knows what's going on in various militia groups and white nationalist groups that tend to be even more unhinged than the evangelicals.

The wokerati would qualify as radically left for rightists as their project is egalitarian at root and there's a fair few wokerati.

As I said, the left has been painted by the right as "radical left (new world order satanic) socialist (that's going to throw you into fema internment camps and barcode you with the mark of the beast)", and it has been central to the right's platform, since at least Obama, and it didn't have to do with "woke" stuff then, but the rage felt at a black man being president and "radical" ideas of things like "obamacare".
I guess you may have selectively forgotten all of that stuff and that the fact that Trump was and is also an unhinged conspiracy theorist also is a BIG reason for his appeal to the right.
It's as central to their platform as trolling and "owning libs" is as central to his supporters.
 

Murphy

cat malogen
There are things that completely slip by you with only being online.
You don't hear overhear remarks in different places that you don't get with being online in different bubbles.
You also, for example, don't see conspiracy literature that gets handed out at evangelical megachurches (basically Trump's base), or hear what is talked about among those groups. Lord know what's going on in various militia groups and white nationalist groups that tend to be even more unhinged than the evangelicals.



As I said, the left has been painted by the right as "radical left (new world order satanic) socialist (that's going to throw you into fema internment camps and barcode you with the mark of the beast)", and it has been central to the right's platform, since at least Obama, and it didn't have to do with "woke" stuff then, but the rage felt at a black man being president and "radical" ideas of things like "obamacare".
I guess you may have selectively forgotten all of that stuff and that the fact that Trump was and is also an unhinged conspiracy theorist also is a BIG reason for his appeal to the right.
It's as central to their platform as trolling and "owning libs" is as central to his supporters.

8 years/2 terms with a black president boiled a lot of piss for a lot of people to the extent you could see the steam from here
 

mixed_biscuits

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There are things that completely slip by you with only being online.
You don't hear overhear remarks in different places that you don't get with being online in different bubbles.
You also, for example, don't see conspiracy literature that gets handed out at evangelical megachurches (basically Trump's base), or hear what is talked about among those groups. Lord knows what's going on in various militia groups and white nationalist groups that tend to be even more unhinged than the evangelicals.
The Dems' central platform is communicated through all channels so it wouldn't be missing on the internet.

How many million Christian evangelicals are there out of the 76 million who voted for Trump? And how many of them believe these leaflets? And how many times have you been hanging around these churches? There are people handing out leaflets on the streets in London that you can be sure contain information found credible only by the people handing out the leaflets.

The other stuff makes me think you're Padraig in disguise, and is part of the Democrat conspiracy theorising that extreme groups have a preponderant influence, so I hope you have the receipts for your assertions.
 

mixed_biscuits

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As I said, the left has been painted by the right as "radical left (new world order satanic) socialist (that's going to throw you into fema internment camps and barcode you with the mark of the beast)", and it has been central to the right's platform, since at least Obama, and it didn't have to do with "woke" stuff then, but the rage felt at a black man being president and "radical" ideas of things like "obamacare".
I guess you may have selectively forgotten all of that stuff and that the fact that Trump was and is also an unhinged conspiracy theorist also is a BIG reason for his appeal to the right.
It's as central to their platform as trolling and "owning libs" is as central to his supporters.
Obamacare is welfare and, yes, traditional right wing would be against welfare; many countries don't have welfare.

That stuff is not the central platform because it's not propounded by the party in its election messaging. If you want the central platform go to Trump's website and look at his policy videos. Yet again you're trapped the Dems' insanity sphere.
 
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