Kid Charlemagne is Pussy Whipped

[mixed_biscuits]

i once felt on top of the world..... i now feel just a spindle being spun... so lost... so helpless.... a burden of my own faults.... what happenedd to my smile?

ever since my blunder of asking her to be my gf, ive felt like ive been walking on eggshells in my mind, ive drawn myself into a pit of overthinking and paranoia..... despite this tho, things had gone fairly well when i would see her since my blunder, but every moment away, i was in that paranoid self hating pit.... then today came, we had plans to get lunch and walk around to some stores, within 10 min of meeting her, the topic of jobs came up and she brought up how she could just do seeking arrangements and fuck people for money and get a sugar daddy to buy her a bunch of things so she wouldnt have to work so she can just sit around doing whatever and not have a job..... immediately im speechless and turned off.... how am i supposed to respond to this or react? later at lunch i bring it back up and ask if shes serious about doing something like that, and she said yes as shes tried it once before, and she did mention this to me weeks ago, but i wrote it off as an offhand comment given the way she said it sounded like it was something shed never want to do again...... the rest of the date i was very moody and on edge, staring into spaces, not talking much or being as cheery and giddy as i usually am around her, just staring aimlessly into the void of her eyes as she rambled on about whatever the fuck..... i was so turned off, i was very excited to see her too, i had written down several conversation topics in my phone that i was looking forward to bringing up and discussing, but i so quickly abandoned that.... i also was planning on once again asking if she would want to come up for a day in nyc as my mother wouldd be away and id have the apartment to myself, but what is the point after hearing all taht?

between this seeking arrangements, the 7 year ex thats brought up almost every time we hang out, and just these off putting comments she makes towards me, i am just so baffled and confused.... why must she not take me seriously? why bring these things up to my face? she shows so much affection kindness to me, she is constantly available and willing when i make plans....

if she is not as serious about me why must she be so constantly willing to talk and hang out and sleep with me!

i cannot believe she so off the cuff says these things to my face....

i feel so helpless

Tell her to be a financial dominatrix. Even less work.

 

[mixed_biscuits]

Has luka been on a date since woops left?

 

[mixed_biscuits]

@kid charlemagne sharing her supposed plan sounds like a "shit test"; don't know the best course of action but playing it cool and steadily get to know her better wouldn't be the worst thing to do.

 

[kid charlemagne]

@kid charlemagne sharing her supposed plan sounds like a "shit test"; don't know the best course of action but playing it cool and steadily get to know her better wouldn't be the worst thing to do.

fuck that. how am i even supposed to pass that test. and "getting to know her", weve been talking and going out a month, i know thats not long, but it cant be normal to just mention this shit so off the cuff to me. we havent even spoken since that date, so im pretty sure this is all cooked. after talking with others it does seem that its best for me to move on.... i dont even know what to do

 

[Murphy]

you move on - the world is your bounty

 

[mixed_biscuits]

fuck that. how am i even supposed to pass that test. and "getting to know her", weve been talking and going out a month, i know thats not long, but it cant be normal to just mention this shit so off the cuff to me. we havent even spoken since that date, so im pretty sure this is all cooked. after talking with others it does seem that its best for me to move on.... i dont even know what to do

If you enjoy interacting with her just keep it bubbling along. What she may have meant by her test is "look, chum, I've got plenty of options, I'm free and independent so if you want me to give that up you better be worth it". Part of being worth it is showing that you're interested in her as a person even if she has temporarily blocked the idea of coupledom. Many women end up marrying their best friend, having manipulated the situation such that the man has passed the test of becoming the best friend.

 

[mixed_biscuits]

Obv you can date other people at the same time while this is chugging along.

 

[kid charlemagne]

If you enjoy interacting with her just keep it bubbling along. What she may have meant by her test is "look, chum, I've got plenty of options, I'm free and independent so if you want me to give that up you better be worth it". Part of being worth it is showing that you're interested in her as a person even if she has temporarily blocked the idea of coupledom. Many women end up marrying their best friend, having manipulated the situation such that the man has passed the test of becoming the best friend.

you are unfortunately making sense.... making me even more confused on what to do

 

[kid charlemagne]

Obv you can date other people at the same time while this is chugging along.

i mean i kind of am and keeping options open, but i only have so much time during the week to devote to going out with women

 

[kid charlemagne]

i guess on one hand you could be right and shes just trying something with me to see i get phased out, and if i just decide to write it off and keep seeing her she'll like me more andd become "worth it" but on the other hand, can i really not find someone who isnt going to pull this shit with me?

 

[kid charlemagne]

ok now biscuits has me leaning towards keeping on and trying to make this work despite everything.... like maybe i just try to pass this test while also communicating how off putting the things she says to me are

 

[line b]

You are so fucked your taking advice from biscuits

 

[Mr. Tea]

You are so fucked your taking advice from biscuits

I was trying to think of some kind of witty way to say this, but yeah, exactly.

 

[kid charlemagne]

You are so fucked your taking advice from biscuits

im so fucked up over this im listening to any advice given

 

[line b]

For real you just gotta tell her what's upsetting you and not care if it dissolves the relationship or not. Biscuits advice would be fine if you were largely doing ok but you're not supposed to feel this bad when dating.

 

[kid charlemagne]

yea ive decided thats the plan after talking with another friend. i typed something up in my notes saturday night about how ive been feeling about all this and i had planned to send and bring it up once we startedd talking again, but i havent heard from her since saturday, so im just going to have to hit her up some time today, and based off her reaction i guess ill know how this will go

 

[kid charlemagne]

i will of course update this thread with what goes down later today

 

[sus]

Many women end up marrying their best friend, having manipulated the situation such that the man has passed the test of becoming the best friend.

Does this happen in Britain? I'm not sure it happens in America I've never ever heard of it, but perhaps it's a 30-something desperation move? Keep him around as a backup til the fertility window's closing?

 

[kid charlemagne]

oh god... i finally messaged her.... and then she immediately responded back with some text blocks kinda turning shit around projecting it back at me, Mostly annoyed with how moody and rude I was on Saturday.... i feel so awful now..... women are so good at making me feel at fault..... i responded with some stuff back and asked if we could talk on the phone or in person and she said she was out andd will respond properly when she gets back... idk how im going to be able to talk to her in person, i might break down in front of her.... yall gotta wish me luck

 

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