Daft Punk
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CrowleyHead
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Zhao thinks Chic is 'a-ight'.
*drives off into space with the stupid French Robots*
*drives off into space with the stupid French Robots*
nah i think it's very boring rhythmically, melodically, musically. i think it's not very sexy at all, and not very fun at all, compared to African disco/funk/rumba.
and i think your fondness for this Chic comes only from familiarity, due to arbitrarily having grown up with it in a rhythmically impoverished, musically under-developed, above equator location; and because you were under exposed to the VASTLY superior, in every way, universe of classic pop and dance music from down south.
where as i spent my childhood in the cultural vacuum of "communist" China, and thus can see the merits, and lack of merits, of things much more clearly and objectively.
https://soundcloud.com/djzhao/heart-of-light
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if you told some North Koreans that there is better music than the propaganda songs they grew up with they would roll their eyes too
Benny Bunter
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i am deciding that sometimes the truth needs to be spoken, directly, without mucking about or beating around the bush or sugar coating, no matter how abrasive it is, than "converting" a few people. and if you look at the number of listeners on that mix which was uploaded a week or so ago, i'm not particularly worried about "converting" people anyhow.
and the truth is that European culture is harmonically advanced, but rhythmically impoverished. Thus when it comes to DANCE MUSIC... the glaring differences are obvious.
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Benny Bunter
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the only reason you're here in this thread is to tell everyone they're stupid.
Simon78
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Nah, North Koreans are not stupid either. they love the stuff they grew up with and distrust things with which they are not familiar. Same as everyone (with the exception maybe of people who grew up in many different places during their formative years -- they lose some of the prejudices).
i'm in this thread to point out Daft Punk is sub standard dance music on the world stage. maybe a 2 out of 10. that's all.
Benny Bunter
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ah ok, so you're here to tell everyone they're ignorant and prejudiced. thats better
like i said, truth needs directly speaking sometimes.
we are all of us ignorant and prejudiced, until we decide to do something about it. if i didn't WILL myself out of the mold i was born into, i'd be a computer programmer who only hangs out with other Chinese people with a wife and 2 kids in a suburb somewhere, instead of rocking clubs and festivals all over the world, and i would be like "dance music? what the fuck is that and why should i give a shit?"
and i'm sorry a few euro-centric egos (or east-asia-centric egos for that matter, if i was speaking to east asians) always gets bruised when the truth comes out about your rhythm-deficient culture. but hey, thems the breaks.
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hey listen, i happen to be really into dance music, and i care a fuck of a lot about it.
if i was really into, i don't know, urban engineering, i'd be like "yo Taipei, your subway system are WACK. y'all need to get some British or German know-how up in this bitch cuz these Anglo Saxon fuckers got that shit down PAT"
you get me?
it's just about quality, intelligence, functionality. ain't nothing personal.
if i was really into, i don't know, urban engineering, i'd be like "yo Taipei, your subway system are WACK. y'all need to get some British or German know-how up in this bitch cuz these Anglo Saxon fuckers got that shit down PAT"
you get me?
it's just about quality, intelligence, functionality. ain't nothing personal.
Russellchap
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Vis a vis Daft Punk & the vocoder the vocoder in music has a long history, in 1974 Kraftwerk (always ahead) used it on the Autobahn LP, Stevie Wonder, late 70s Herbie Hancock, even old rocker Neil Young used it on his vilified LP Trans. ELO even used it on their hits Mr. Blue Sky and Sweet Talkin' Woman. So there you have it some great tunes featured vocoded vocals although I should guess there were some duffers too. Did Daleks use vocoders or did they just have a sore throat?
Sorry i might be getting the wrong end of the stick here but are you labelling the whole of western musical culture as rhythmically deficient?
On a more positive note i am interested in finding more about african disco stuff - i hugely enjoyed this compilation but never got round to digging deeper:
http://www.residentadvisor.net/review-view.aspx?id=7504
any recommendations?
the RA review name checks "Soul Jazz's 2002 Hustle! Reggae Disco and the Miles Cleret-curated Nigeria Disco Funk Special (from 2008)". Worth a look? Listening to this heart of light thing now but not really what I was looking for, although it is nice.
this is more the vibe i was digging from lagos disco inferno:
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yes.
i had high hopes for that Lagos Disco Infernal record, but was massively let down.
there are some compilations out there on Strut, Analog Africa, Honest Jons too i think, and they should be easy to find. Nigeria Disco Funk Special, as well as all other volumes in that series on that label, are among the top of the bunch. also must listen, though not only disco but rock, soul, and psych tip, is the "Love Is A Real Thing, Fuzzy Psych Sounds of West Africa"
that tune in the youtube you linked from Lagos Disco Infernal sounds waaaay too western, with the stunted 1-2 dupple beat, to be of any, even minor interest to me.
OK fair enough I thought that the first 15 mins or so i listened to of your mix sounded far too western and not really anything special. we are clearly just on a different page here.
thanks for the recommendations anyway.
as for you condemning the whole of western music as rhythmically backwards - i dont really see how that squares away with the dozens of mixes you've recorded splicing together music that is by its very definition western to the core with music from Ethiopia, Ghana, South Africa etc ('the real deal' according to you).
E.G. http://ngomasound.com/2011/08/04/fusion-1/
Music from Danny Weed, Benga, Kode 9, Pinch, Hijak, hatcha, d1, l wiz, cyrus. i could go on.
i dont see why in this thread you see the need to set out these two worlds as mutually exclusive when the whole point of those mixes seems to be underlining that they can and do work together when you throw together excellent music from both worlds?
Surely the answer is that just as with any genre/culture, there is just as much rhythmically excellent music from the west and rhythmically retarded music from Africa/Asia/the East.