if New York can die so can London

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GhostofKinski

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NYC does suck. It still has great museums, if you are a shopper pretty good prices for clothes and such (compared to most of west Europe). If you think you’re going to find the NYC of the 70’s/80’s. No chance. With very few exceptions. If you are visiting and searching for authenticity, Manhattan is the last place you wanna see.parts of the surrounding boroughs are far more your better shot of getting the New Yawk experience. You’ll be hard pressed to even find a decent slice of pizza, never mind a great bar/pub (though I do have recommendations). Brooklyn, though already infected with the Manhattan type gentrification in the northern sections in particular are okay for finding decent music venues, funky shops etc.
But it’s the further reaches of Bklyn, Bronx & Queens where you’ll find the sections of NYC most associated with the stereotypical mystique of film lore or whatever.
 
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GhostofKinski said:
NYC does suck. It still has great museums, if you are a shopper pretty good prices for clothes and such (compared to most of west Europe). If you think you’re going to find the NYC of the 70’s/80’s. No chance. With very few exceptions. If you are visiting and searching for authenticity, Manhattan is the last place you wanna see.parts of the surrounding boroughs are far more your better shot of getting the New Yawk experience. You’ll be hard pressed to even find a decent slice of pizza, never mind a great bar/pub (though I do have recommendations). Brooklyn, though already infected with the Manhattan type gentrification in the northern sections in particular are okay for finding decent music venues, funky shops etc.
But it’s the further reaches of Bklyn, Bronx & Queens where you’ll find the sections of NYC most associated with the stereotypical mystique of film lore or whatever.
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"new york city ain't what it used to be"

You're hearing it here first!
 
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Mr. Tea said:
Let's have a ghost-off!
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By all means. Let’s not let an opportunity to stir up shit pass us up.
I know I’m new here, but there seems to be a basic divide between the highly enlightened who take any, even first hand opinions by people born and raised somewhere, as a given, & those with genuine curiosity about somewhere they either haven’t yet visited & those who may want to visit and are interested in a scouting report.

I haven’t been to London since 1989. I loved it. Had a blast. I’m sure it’s virtually unrecognizable to my memory but my memory is still how I see/remember it.
 
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The big change seems to be that it's more competitive to leave a fun little bohemian art life like it used to be. Most people I know that do art there do a lot less of it than they would have if they just stayed home. But they do still meet tons of beautiful people and do loads of drugs and go to good parties and things like that.
 
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sus said:
Dust & despair
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For most of the population (youth culture) yes. Even when I was young person. I noticed at a very young age there was a divide. A show (music) may only cost $2, and rents were super cheap. But, there was the majority of us who were having a great time.
There were those among us who seemed to never miss a show. Had access to all the clubs. And, always seemed to be in the right place at the right time. Think the Beastie Boys, one of whom (the only one who went to a city school). The common denominator: Trust Funds (Trusterfarians). But it took me a long time to realize that as there were as many runaways from far worse circumstances than my own. It was one big scene but had clique’s and a barely discernible stratosphere to most 15 y/o’s, myself included.

I’m taking it on faith that the kids in the city are finding making their own way.
My stronger suspicion though is that the number of Manhattan/Williamsburg hipsters are composed of a much higher percentage of trust fund kids.
 
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im not speaking to anyone specifically, but if u do the "things aint what they used to be" complaint, then it says more about your own inability to make your own luck and fun in life.... two words, do better.... as always, make no excuses, just play like a champion.... the world is yours, so go outside and laugh a little louder
 
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There is a major factor in nostalgia of not really missing the past as missing being young.
I can remember my parents who were both born under very harsh conditions in 1929 & 31 respectively who despite living in poverty & squalor at times talked about their youth with such wistful sentimentality.
 
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