Nick Land and Neocameralism

[firefinga]

the whole thing is embarassing from start to finish



our josefs account

The thing with the taped over Apple logo had me a bit, admittedly

 

[luka]

hes got a good line in skewering his opponents hasnt he? the left is a fleapit full of grotesques. on the other hand, politics is a team sport and if you allow your (completely justifiable) contempt for your team mates to overide your desire to win the game then, well, you don't win the game.

 

[firefinga]

sadly this type of political interaction is becoming the norm, very unhinged. we need a return to civility.

More in a general sense here but judging from youtube channel comments - it's the "whatever"right who is the uncivil one. Reading the comments on those infamous right wing youtube channels is stomach turning in its blunt display of violence fantasies/basic negativity I haven't witnessed on the net ever. And this is youtube, not some obscure right wing messegae board or something.

Then go to youngturks for instance and compare.

 

[hmg]

lol that skinny lad in the beanie is one of ours! defending fascism!

Hitting the big time

 

[droid]

Land, Kode 9, K-punk all mentioned in this.

One of the central figures of accelerationism is the British philosopher Nick Land, who taught at Warwick University in the 1990s, and then abruptly left academia. “Philosophers are vivisectors,” he wrote in 1992. “They have the precise and reptilian intelligence shared by all who experiment with living things.” Iain Hamilton Grant, who was one of Land’s students, remembers: “There was always a tendency in all of us to bait the liberal, and Nick was the best at it.”

Since Warwick, Land has published prolifically on the internet, not always under his own name, about the supposed obsolescence of western democracy; he has also written approvingly about “human biodiversity” and “capitalistic human sorting” – the pseudoscientific idea, currently popular on the far right, that different races “naturally” fare differently in the modern world; and about the supposedly inevitable “disintegration of the human species” when artificial intelligence improves sufficiently.

Other accelerationists now distance themselves from Land. Grant, who teaches philosophy at the University of the West of England, says of him: “I try not to read his stuff. Folk [in the accelerationist movement] are embarrassed. They think he’s sounding like a thug. Anyone who’s an accelerationist, who’s reflective, does think: ‘How far is too far?’ But then again, even asking that question is the opposite of accelerationism.” Accelerationism is not about restraint.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ge-philosophy-predicted-the-future-we-live-in

 

[droid]

Hitting the big time

Case closed.

 

[Mr. Tea]

Land, Kode 9, K-punk all mentioned in this.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ge-philosophy-predicted-the-future-we-live-in

This is a good point:

elebrating speed and technology has its risks. A century ago, the writers and artists of the Italian futurist movement fell in love with the machines of the industrial era and their apparent ability to invigorate society. Many futurists followed this fascination into war-mongering and fascism. While some futurist works are still admired, the movement’s reputation has never recovered.

The whole thing does smack somewhat of 'Futurism 2.0', doesn't it?

 

[hmg]

This is a good point:



The whole thing does smack somewhat of 'Futurism 2.0', doesn't it?

Not quite, not until one of them writes a cookery book.

 

[Mr. Tea]

Not quite, not until one of them writes a cookery book.

Or gets heavily involved in fasc- oh never mind.

 

[vimothy]

Urbanomic published a nice article on Ccru by Amy Ireland recently: https://www.urbanomic.com/document/poememenon/

In the framework posed by a cosmological application of the second law of thermodynamics, negentropy registers as time anomaly. As it slots itself together, the assembly circuitry of terrestrial capitalism increasingly evades the jurisdiction of asymmetrical temporalization, appearing from a vantage point mired within linear time as ‘an invasion from the future’.28 This capacity to hide in time constitutes one aspect of its redoubtable camouflage, the other coins the neologism ‘teleoplexy’—the concealment of an antithetical teleological undertow in the presumed subordination of machinic ends to human ones. At first, this basic, spirodynamic process is only graspable negatively from the side of the regulator (to use the engineering term). This is the default transcendental position. Deploying a metaphor that points conspiratorially back to the architectural aversion of Bataille, Land remarks that, initially ‘it is the prison, and not the prisoner, who speaks’.29 Reality is spontaneously arranged around the ‘inertial telos’ of cybernegative apprehension, which asks the naïve question: ‘Do we want capitalism?’30 Shrewdly reformulated, the question runs: What does capitalism want with you?

 

[baboon2004]

Is that the best bit?

 

[john eden]

It will have to do until the cookery book is published in time for Xmas.

 

[firefinga]

Hitting the big time

Being featured on that youtube channel is however a very relative form of hitting the big time

 

[Leo]

Urbanomic published a nice article on Ccru by Amy Ireland recently: https://www.urbanomic.com/document/poememenon/

vim, you're just trolling now, right? i know i'm just a dull blockhead but that first sentence alone elicited an eye roll. i'm sure it's not at all the pretentious word salad that it appears to be, care to explain it for the common man?

 

[luka]

It was far too long for me to read and tbh too nerdy too but i wouldnt call it pretentious. Im not sure nerds can be pretentious.

 

[firefinga]

For someone affiliated with arts and such, Josef K's cardboard lacks a bit in aesthetics, though.

 

[Mr. Tea]

For someone affiliated with arts and such, Josef K's cardboard lacks a bit in aesthetics, though.

Yeah, he could have brightened it up with some colourful fonts or a bit of clip-art or something.

This one would've been good:

 

[Mr. Tea]

Urbanomic published a nice article on Ccru by Amy Ireland recently: https://www.urbanomic.com/document/poememenon/

...but as Robartes delves further into the system’s origin, he discovers that the Cracow book (the Speculum Angelorum et Hominis by one ‘Giraldus’, published in 1594) recapitulates the belief system of an Arabian sect known as the Judwalis or ‘diagrammatists’, who in turn derived it from a mysterious work—now long lost—containing the teachings of [...] Luka, a philosopher at the ancient Court of Harun Al-Raschid, although rumour has it that [...] Luka got it from a desert djinn.

Huh, figures.

 

[luka]

http://www.yeatsvision.com/Kusta.html

Its one of my favourite books. I told you to read it not so long ago

 

[Mr. Tea]

Oh yeah, I forgot the title but I remember you talking about Yeats. Might look out for a copy once I've read 'you's book about psychopaths.