Mr. Tea
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The Biscuits doctrine: when completely defeated, try to misdirect with a dick joke?
("PNAS" is quite funny, though. I'll allow that.)
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("PNAS" is quite funny, though. I'll allow that.)
Entirety of the black vote? It's too early to call things like this.
Not sure that he'll beat 4 indictments. Can't say though, it's such an unprecedented situation.
If it's an opinion Dinesh D'`souza holds it's by default wrong.
I can see the popularity of outlaws in American discourse, sure. I can also see how "revolt against the elites" has worked in the US and in the UK. It's the essence of the culture wars really. But "the black vote" going for Trump? Show me the evidence, not just assertions by reactionary morons.
Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
A gangsta? An prominent member of an organized crime network, in other words? I mean, exactly the sort of person you want running the country, then, right?
Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
Just found this, which is more about black voters being disillusion with Biden or with Democrats in general, rather than turning towards Trump in big numbers, but it contains the following:
So "the black vote is going Trump's way" actually means that not quite one black voter in five currently favours Trump. Quite the landslide, eh?
The last line is quite telling, if Republicans are pushing this "black voters are turning to Trump because of his badman image" schtick.
So "the black vote is going Trump's way" actually means that not quite one black voter in five currently favours Trump. Quite the landslide, eh?
The last line is quite telling, if Republicans are pushing this "black voters are turning to Trump because of his badman image" schtick.
Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
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Inside the Trump campaign’s effort — and struggle — to win over Black voters in Texas
The Trump campaign has held events across the country to chip away at his broad unpopularity with Black voters and flip the narrative that he is hostile to people of color.
www.texastribune.org
IdleRich
IdleRich
Today seems the main news is about the trial date. For the Jan 6th stuff Smith wanted it as soon as Jan 24, but Trump's lawyers sought to have it slightly later in 2026. Now the judge has ruled that, subject to the thousands of appeals that are no doubt already incoming, the trial will begin March 2024.
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IdleRich
IdleRich
Dinesh D'Souza is a massive bell-end. As far as I know his main achievement was being convicted of fraudulent election funding and then begging Trump for a pardon. Once he'd oozed his way out of a prison sentence he then began to accuse people left, right and centre* of election fraud.
In other words, classic Trumper-style projection, blame others of that which you are yourself guilty. As normal with such types his wild accusations are evidence free, whereas those against him are rock solid - but he makes up for that with large amounts of bluster and having no problem with repeating long-debunked attacks, hoping they will somehow become true if he keeps saying them enough. And as far as MAGA goes he's right.
I suppose this is the fun of living in a nice and cosy, virtual MAGA-community, you can just say what you want to be true rather than what is true and a load of moronic nodding dogs will keep you company, happily reassuring you that you're right etc
I do see the appeal; firstly you get a comforting feeling of being part of something, a genuinely supportive group of people who think as you do - albeit a bunch of inadequate and hysterically screeching racists - and secondly you can just pick and choose the facts you like, never having to deal with things you don't care for cos everyone around you does the same. In fact for the most part you can create the reality you want and simply live in it.
Of course, every now and again your little world does bang into or at least rub up against reality and you tend to get a rude shock. Dinesh's Mules video is a good example of something that he made for this world and which to them is cast iron proof of cheating. Every now and again a few of them wonder outloud why it never changed anything but none of them understand that it's total bollocks long debunked, and of course DD doesn't care, he made it for MAGA world.
Another example I suppose is when someone says "impeach Biden" or "arrest Hilary" etc etc cos they think the stuff they've read on Twitter is not only real, but also actual real evidence, they totally believe that Dems just charge and arrest on the same kinda stuff - and it's kinda sad in a way cos the leadership finds it profitable to let them believe that. With the Trump stuff you can people on twitter saying again and again why doesn't the RNC or MTG do something beyond their angry tweets, they don't understand that there is nothing they can do agai BB St it cos their claims are all lies that can't be used to do anything in any real world situation, whereas on the other hand the indictments are real charges brought in the real world by real grand juries with real evidence etc etc, they think it's no different from whatever bullshit Tom Fitton shat out etc
Ooh another good one is @mixed_biscuits talking about how Trump doesn't need to do anything more cos he has the proof that Dems cheated. I assume he thinks that proof will be used at some point, maybe during the Jan 6th trial in May he'll produce it and Trump will be instated as president.
Every now and then there can be a kinda correction where reality becomes too big and the MAGA position becomes so untenable that the sufferer has to either accept reality - which almost never happens - or sort of double-down into an even more insane position. This is pretty dangerous cos at some point it becomes literal, utter madness. I think the only other way out is to just sort of forget about it, change the subject and pretend it never happened. This what - @luka will remember who I mean - our friend Liam would do. I remember him arguing passionately for hours each day over a period of months that Lance Armstrong was not a doper, and then suddenly SNAP never mentioned his name again. I guess a pretty good coping mechanism.
*That's a figure of speech of course, he didn't accuse anyone on the right of anything
In other words, classic Trumper-style projection, blame others of that which you are yourself guilty. As normal with such types his wild accusations are evidence free, whereas those against him are rock solid - but he makes up for that with large amounts of bluster and having no problem with repeating long-debunked attacks, hoping they will somehow become true if he keeps saying them enough. And as far as MAGA goes he's right.
I suppose this is the fun of living in a nice and cosy, virtual MAGA-community, you can just say what you want to be true rather than what is true and a load of moronic nodding dogs will keep you company, happily reassuring you that you're right etc
I do see the appeal; firstly you get a comforting feeling of being part of something, a genuinely supportive group of people who think as you do - albeit a bunch of inadequate and hysterically screeching racists - and secondly you can just pick and choose the facts you like, never having to deal with things you don't care for cos everyone around you does the same. In fact for the most part you can create the reality you want and simply live in it.
Of course, every now and again your little world does bang into or at least rub up against reality and you tend to get a rude shock. Dinesh's Mules video is a good example of something that he made for this world and which to them is cast iron proof of cheating. Every now and again a few of them wonder outloud why it never changed anything but none of them understand that it's total bollocks long debunked, and of course DD doesn't care, he made it for MAGA world.
Another example I suppose is when someone says "impeach Biden" or "arrest Hilary" etc etc cos they think the stuff they've read on Twitter is not only real, but also actual real evidence, they totally believe that Dems just charge and arrest on the same kinda stuff - and it's kinda sad in a way cos the leadership finds it profitable to let them believe that. With the Trump stuff you can people on twitter saying again and again why doesn't the RNC or MTG do something beyond their angry tweets, they don't understand that there is nothing they can do agai BB St it cos their claims are all lies that can't be used to do anything in any real world situation, whereas on the other hand the indictments are real charges brought in the real world by real grand juries with real evidence etc etc, they think it's no different from whatever bullshit Tom Fitton shat out etc
Ooh another good one is @mixed_biscuits talking about how Trump doesn't need to do anything more cos he has the proof that Dems cheated. I assume he thinks that proof will be used at some point, maybe during the Jan 6th trial in May he'll produce it and Trump will be instated as president.
Every now and then there can be a kinda correction where reality becomes too big and the MAGA position becomes so untenable that the sufferer has to either accept reality - which almost never happens - or sort of double-down into an even more insane position. This is pretty dangerous cos at some point it becomes literal, utter madness. I think the only other way out is to just sort of forget about it, change the subject and pretend it never happened. This what - @luka will remember who I mean - our friend Liam would do. I remember him arguing passionately for hours each day over a period of months that Lance Armstrong was not a doper, and then suddenly SNAP never mentioned his name again. I guess a pretty good coping mechanism.
*That's a figure of speech of course, he didn't accuse anyone on the right of anything
Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
I think the end of that story about Liam and Armstrong is even funnier than that, as the way I remember it, he instantly pivoted to a completely amoral, pragmatic position of "Yeah well everyone cheats don't they, it's no big deal, so you'd be a fool not to, Armstrong was just unlucky to get caught and they probably went after him in particular because he was so successful." At least, I'm fairly sure he said as much to me.
Which sounds a lot like Limp Biscuits's position of "both sides cheated" in the 2020 election. Now let's assume for a second that this were true. If we take the amoral, pragmatic approach that cheating is no big deal and the only thing that matters is whether it works and whether you get away with it, I'd say that if the Democrats could cheat well enough to win an election, despite the Republicans also cheating, and despite the Republicans holding the Presidency, a majority in the Senate and a 6-3 supermajority in the SCOTUS, then they deserved to win. Further, that since they lost despite both cheating and having such a huge advantage, the Republicans deserve to be out of power forever, for being not only massively corrupt but also hilariously inept.
Is anybody watching Tucker Carlson's show on X? It's weirdly compelling. I used to think he was just a buffoon riding the worst instincts of his audience. Now I think he's not a buffoon at all, but one of the most skilled communicators and broadcasters alive. He's creating a world, curating a worldview.
IdleRich
IdleRich
I haven't seen it (yet) but there's certainly something quite interesting about the guy. For me there are three things going on with him; for one there is the buffoon which is always assumed him to be, then you see these interviews about what he thinks about the media and what he hopes to achieve, and then thirdly there is the actuality of what he's doing which is quite different from what I'd dismissively assumed, but which, we must be honest, falls far short of what he seems to think he's pulling off.
Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
This is... quite something. Trump has apparently cited the case of the Scottsboro Boys (a group of black teenagers who were falsely accused of raping two white women about 90 years) as a reason why his trial should be set for 2026. This is the same Trump who took out a newspaper ad calling for the death penalty for the Central Park Five (a group of black and Latino teens falsely accused of raping a white woman, who it turned out had had their confessions beaten out of them by New York's finest), and who just so happens to have been accused of rape or other forms of sexual assault by (at the last count) 25 women.
The judge assigned to his case, who is a black woman, was not impressed.
The judge assigned to his case, who is a black woman, was not impressed.
IdleRich
IdleRich
What I'm finding amusing Is how, along with the mugshot Trump's stats were recorded, but they didn't measure they just asked him - and he pretended he was six two and 215 lbs, which I guess is pretty funny in itself, but now loads of MAGA are repeating that as true and describing him as, and I quote "An elite athlete".
So if you were one of those fools who believed their eyes and who thought Trump was an obscenely fat but still bizarrely frail old man... well, now you know the truth I guess.
So if you were one of those fools who believed their eyes and who thought Trump was an obscenely fat but still bizarrely frail old man... well, now you know the truth I guess.
IdleRich
IdleRich
Now he's given a thought-provoking interview to Glen Bevk.
I guess on balance it's mildly amusing that he's running around flapping his guns like that, but I do wish he'd come out with more hilarious gibberish type stuff. I guess the more he speaks, the more chance he comes out with an absolute humdinger.
I guess on balance it's mildly amusing that he's running around flapping his guns like that, but I do wish he'd come out with more hilarious gibberish type stuff. I guess the more he speaks, the more chance he comes out with an absolute humdinger.