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yyaldrin would have been a member of the Baader-Meinhof gang back in the day.
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The ones who started out killing unrepentant Nazis in West Germany and then went to Lebanon to train with Islamist militants who idolized Hitler...
 
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LOS ANGELES (AP) — National Guard troops have begun arriving in Los Angeles on orders from President Donald Trump to stamp out protests that have broken out in recent days against federal immigration authorities seeking to carry out deportations in the region.
 
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LOS ANGELES (AP) — National Guard troops have begun arriving in Los Angeles on orders from President Donald Trump to stamp out protests that have broken out in recent days against federal immigration authorities seeking to carry out deportations in the region.
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@Clinamenic (I think it was him, anyway) thought I was being a hysterical, gullible liberal when I talked about the possibility a few weeks ago, but doesn't this kinda sound maybe a bit like martial law? Or at least a significant step in that direction.

He's already signed an executive order that all but makes cops immune from prosecution.
 
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Mr. Tea said:
@Clinamenic (I think it was him, anyway) thought I was being a hysterical, gullible liberal when I talked about the possibility a few weeks ago, but doesn't this kinda sound maybe a bit like martial law? Or at least a significant step in that direction.

He's already signed an executive order that all but makes cops immune from prosecution.
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The way I always understood it. And, it may have changed since it’s been over 30 years since I wore the uniform.
The National Guard, although undergoing the exact same training as the Army & Army Reserve, is the state militia ie; California NG,
NY NG,…what have you. As such, they are under the command of the state Governor.
When there’s a national emergency overseas the Army Reserve, being federal are called up to either deploy, or in most cases take over duties performed by the Active Army.
All three components can and have been deployed overseas depending on the mission.
Under our constitution though, federal troops may not be deployed against domestic disturbances (I’m sure there have been exceptions).
As a typical example Kent State University (the shooting of protesters) was carried out by the Ohio National Guard. The POTUS can lean on a reluctant Governor to deploy, but unless the are federalized which is a little more tricky, the President is not their direct (chain of command) boss.
 
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GhostofKinski said:
The way I always understood it. And, it may have changed since it’s been over 30 years since I wore the uniform.
The National Guard, although undergoing the exact same training as the Army & Army Reserve, is the state militia ie; California NG,
NY NG,…what have you. As such, they are under the command of the state Governor.
When there’s a national emergency overseas the Army Reserve, being federal are called up to either deploy, or in most cases take over duties performed by the Active Army.
All three components can and have been deployed overseas depending on the mission.
Under our constitution though, federal troops may not be deployed against domestic disturbances (I’m sure there have been exceptions).
As a typical example Kent State University (the shooting of protesters) was carried out by the Ohio National Guard. The POTUS can lean on a reluctant Governor to deploy, but unless the are federalized which is a little more tricky, the President is not their direct (chain of command) boss.
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So it sounds like it's already an anomaly for the president to be issuing direct orders to the NG, right?
 
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Mr. Tea said:
@Clinamenic (I think it was him, anyway) thought I was being a hysterical, gullible liberal when I talked about the possibility a few weeks ago, but doesn't this kinda sound maybe a bit like martial law? Or at least a significant step in that direction.

He's already signed an executive order that all but makes cops immune from prosecution.
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Yeah it’s definitely a strongman/authoritarian move, but more broadly I still am not really worried, again mostly because these executive orders mostly are functioning to signal strongman intents. They don’t seem to have nearly the weight their name suggests, at least as I understand it
 
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